Cichla temensis "Orinoco"

[M|L]

Oh, I see what you mean.

So you're implying that these are the "true" and original classified species as "C. temensis" meanwhile the other ones are actually different but may also carry the same name due to the lack of collective data.

Cool.

 

[Cichlidgeek]

Oh, I see what you mean.

So you're implying that these are the "true" and original classified species as "C. temensis" meanwhile the other ones are actually different but may also carry the same name due to the lack of collective data.

Cool.

Yeah, that'll work

I personally like to refer to "temensis" being a catch-all name for a complex of species, which all but one is yet to be described.

 

[The TRUST]

No Jed, these are not the ones in your tank....these were 16 inches each in these photos.

Darn it! Got excited there for a minute.

Anyways, u got PM

 

[Steve_89]

Love 'em

 

[Danh]

And those were actually caught in venezuela, right?

 

[DIESELMACK]

I am a bit confused also...what distiguishable characteristic makes this a "TRUE" Venezuelan vs any other temensis from Venezuela? or are you just generalizing by using "true" to actually generalize the whole Venezuelan temensis population? if this is true wouldnt a temensis from brazil be a "true" brazilian temensis, no matter lower amazonas ? and determining species...is this being done now via dna or is there actual physical determiners or pattern variations that are true to that species without flux?.......reason I am asking is this is so confusing...and you seem to correct everyone all the time but offer up no info but a name of a species.....dont get me wrong...not meaning to sound bashing what-so-ever...just very confused now on the classification of species as you've told of late and was wanting some education on the matter.

 

[Cichlidgeek]

And those were actually caught in venezuela, right?

Correct.

 

[Cichlidgeek]

I am a bit confused also...what distiguishable characteristic makes this a "TRUE" Venezuelan vs any other temensis from Venezuela? or are you just generalizing by using "true" to actually generalize the whole Venezuelan temensis population? if this is true wouldnt a temensis from brazil be a "true" brazilian temensis, no matter lower amazonas ? and determining species...is this being done now via dna or is there actual physical determiners or pattern variations that are true to that species without flux?.......reason I am asking is this is so confusing...and you seem to correct everyone all the time but offer up no info but a name of a species.....dont get me wrong...not meaning to sound bashing what-so-ever...just very confused now on the classification of species as you've told of late and was wanting some education on the matter.

I will answer this when I get back from work in a few hours.

 

[USMCtanker]

i want one

 

[R1_Ridah]

When you guys ask, "What makes them different." What are you talking about? When I say that these are Venezuelan temensis I am simply saying that these are temensis from Venezuela, nothing more, nothing less.

No Jed, these are not the ones in your tank....these were 16 inches each in these photos.

I have a few copies of the BB. PM me your address and I will mail you one.

Thanks guys.

Sorry out of the topic, but has TFH ever covered and issue about African Tiger Fish's ? If so any back issue's available ?????? thanks....