Cichlid pellets

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Well the OP is in Wisconsin, I'm in Canada, and the other posters in this discussion are also from either Canada, or the US. You might be better off starting your own thread on this new subject (asking for UK input) or asking on a local UK forum. I'm guessing that the rest of us wouldn't know where to begin as we don't know what is available, or not, in your area.
 
I have found it all the 'treats' that end up being expensive. All the frozen stuff adds up and really is not necessary for healthy, happy fish. So why even skimp on a cheap pellet? Just use a high quality pellet and cut way back on treats.

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I have found it all the 'treats' that end up being expensive. All the frozen stuff adds up and really is not necessary for healthy, happy fish. So why even skimp on a cheap pellet? Just use a high quality pellet and cut way back on treats.

Ian21777 you should start your own post on food for what you are looking for and let us address the OP food question.

You're right... I apologise... I shouldn't have derailed the thread by talking about pellet food...

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Ok thanks everyone! For a little clarification I don't feed a lot of frozen food to my bigger fish because it does add up fairly fast. But some of my tanks with cichlids/sunfish do get a lot of frozen food because of other fish in the tank. E.g. my West African tank has some Madagascar and Westie cichlids. It also has Elephantnose fish and will soon have a west African eel and Ropefish. Some for those don't really take prepared food, but it is impossible to only give them the bloodworms, and not the cichlids. My homemade frozen food is quite cheap, because I use a mix of fish, octopus, squid, shrimp, mussels, from the Asian store nearby and veggies from the supermarket. I do feed that regularly to all my tanks.

What is a good brand of food sold in bulk? All the food I have ever looked at for pond fish, be it koi or game fish, has terrible ingredients. For example I just looked at the gamefish food at my local Fleet Farm, and the first ingredient was "pulverized poultry feathers," followed by wheat, corn, and soy products.
 
I have found it all the 'treats' that end up being expensive. All the frozen stuff adds up and really is not necessary for healthy, happy fish. So why even skimp on a cheap pellet? Just use a high quality pellet and cut way back on treats.

Ian21777 you should start your own post on food for what you are looking for and let us address the OP food question.

DMD123, forgot to ask you what kind of pellets do you feed your pearsei?
 
DMD123, forgot to ask you what kind of pellets do you feed your pearsei?
Omega One foods include Super Kelp floating pellets (2mm), Cichlid pellets floating (4mm), Super Color Cichlid sinking (3.5mm), Algae wafers. I also use NLS 4.5mm floating and Thera A 7mm sinking. The mix of floating and sinking is so that all the fish get a chance to eat, otherwise one fat pearsei.
 
Not a which food is best comment, just simple analysis and fyi: If you know something about these ingredients, the Hikari ingredient list tells you that a sizable fraction of protein in either Cichlid Gold or Bio Gold is coming from a combination of wheat based ingredients, yeast (brewing by product), gluten, or soybean meal (depending which product).

In brief, here's my problem with that: Aquatic Science article

In brief, here's my problem with soybean meal as a fish food ingredient:
Soybean meal and intestinal issues in Zebra fry

Soybean meal and intestinal inflammation in salmon

From a similar study-- general comment about issues with the levels of some of the common plant based ingredients in some fish food formulas:
The increased use of plant materials results in many cases to less growth and presents a hazard to the digestive health of many fish species, including salmon.
Different species vary in their tolerance levels for some of these ingredients. Judge for yourself, but my rule is no soybean meal (or most other soy fractions) in my fish food and protein primarily from aquatic sources vs. wheat, soy, yeast, corn, and most other large commercial farming or brewing products/by products. Aquatic doesn't have to mean fish meal, mysis is good ime, spirulina is aquatic, krill, obviously, etc. Would you see obvious, immediate effects on health, etc? Not necessarily, but I'm looking at the long term health of my fish.

...Insects would also be a natural protein source for many fish, but I'm not aware of any foods based on nymphs, midges, etc. Or Amazon seeds and fruits would be natural for some fish, but, again, not something you see.

Again, I'm not arguing anything here, just fyi-- your choice.
 
All the food I have ever looked at for pond fish, be it koi or game fish, has terrible ingredients. For example I just looked at the gamefish food at my local Fleet Farm, and the first ingredient was "pulverized poultry feathers," followed by wheat, corn, and soy products.

That pretty much sums it up. Most low cost farm feeds that are sold in bulk are cheap for a reason. Then again how different are they in nutrient make up compared to a food marketed as "Gold", that contains generic fish meal, wheat flour, flaked corn, brewer's dried yeast, wheat bran, and gluten meal as its primary ingredients? And as neutrina just stated; different species vary in their tolerance levels for some of these ingredients. Judge for yourself. (well said on all points)


Add to that vitamin levels that IMO do not even meet the bare minimum required by some species, and ya, in most commercial feeds you generally get what you pay for.
 
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