Cichlids in Planted Ripariums

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hydrophyte

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I have a number of different tanks going right now and most of them are planted ripariums. Ripariums look a lot like paludariums, but unlike those kinds of setups they do not include built-up terrestrial features. The plants are supported instead with hanging and floating planting devices. Here is a shot of a 120-gallon Mexico river biotope riparium.

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You can't see them in there, but this tank has groups of two different poecilid species and a goodeid. Here is another setup in a 65 that I had going for a while, but that I have since torn down.

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That one included a number of nice flowering plants.

Thus far I have mainly kept smaller community-type fish and livebearers in my ripariums, but I am interested in branching out to explore more different stocking options. Here is a brand new setup that I put together with the idea of showcasing a group of Synodontis lucipinnis catfish.

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My other ripariums only have water filled to about 1/3 full, but this 50-gallon tank has ~35 gallons of water in it, so there is more space for fish: the other setups have emphasized the plant growth more as the main subject of the display.

Certain kinds of cichlids (e.g., rams, Apistogramma) are already popular choices for planted tanks, but many others are generally considered to be too boisterous and destructive to keep with plants. However, riparium planting might get around some of the problems associated with keeping large active fish and plants together. This list summarizes some of the ideas that come to mind for this idea of keeping cichlids with riparium plants.

  1. plants mainly out of reach of fish and protected in planters
  2. CO2 injection, important for keeping plants in high-light, densely planted tanks, is not required because emersed riparium plants get their necessary carbon dioxide from the air
  3. excellent biological filtration, including removal of nitrates and potential decreased demand for water changes
  4. plant removal of toxins (e.g., heavy metals, endocrine-affecting chemicals) that can affect fish health and reproduction

Points #3 and #4 are also affects of regular submersed aquarium plants, but as the other points suggest, with certain kinds of fish it is probably a lot easier to keep riparium plants than more traditional plant choices.

Well, this post has run long so I will wrap it up. I would be interested to hear others' thoughts on this idea.
 
wow...those things are beautiful. If I didnt have a tank with overflows, Id be tempted to try to do that. Maybe Ill attempt it with a 10 gallon I have.

Thanks for the inspiration.
 
You might be able to pull it off in a tank with overflows. Do you have one of the regular Aqueons with the black plastic overflow box? There should be plenty of space for plants on the glass between the overflows.

Those riparium planters also come with sandwich magnet mounts. I don't think that the regular suction cup mount would stick to the plastic overflow very well, but the magnet mount might slide down inside real easy. As I recall the overflow box for Aqueon tanks is open on top.

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That could be a cool way to hide that plastic overflow.
 
yes, you are right, but there is no way for me to lower the water level in the tank. Its a 265 gallon and would be filled to within an inch of the top, enabling fish to jump out etc if I didnt have lids on it.

Heres one of my incantations with plants, which I have since changed.

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absolutely beautiful!!! I'd love to try something like that. Maybe an extra tall tank would allow more "fish space"?

can you recommend some place to get the planters from, or where one can find more information? Thanks!
 
Your Ripariums are beautiful! I love them!
 
VRWC;3706878; said:
yes, you are right, but there is no way for me to lower the water level in the tank. Its a 265 gallon and would be filled to within an inch of the top, enabling fish to jump out etc if I didnt have lids on it.

Yeah if you have jumpers in there then that wouldn't really work.

That looks like a nice setup. What species do you have? The fish must appreciate those caves under the driftwood pieces.
 
peathenster;3706883; said:
absolutely beautiful!!! I'd love to try something like that. Maybe an extra tall tank would allow more "fish space"?

That 65 was a real good shape. It had plenty of space above the water for plants, and there was 25 or so gallons of water in it too, so I had a pretty nice small community of tetras and stuff like that.

A 110 Tall (30" high) would be awesome for this. You could fit a lot of really cool plants in a tank like that.

Of course if you can remove the canopy and hang the lights then you can also just fill the tank up more and let the plants grow out the top.
 
hydrophyte;3706898; said:
Yeah if you have jumpers in there then that wouldn't really work.

That looks like a nice setup. What species do you have? The fish must appreciate those caves under the driftwood pieces.

Thanks. In that pic, I had a festae pair, grammodes pair, 13+ convicts and several various catfish. The festae had fry and when they spawned, in one night, they killed everyone in the tank. So I moved them to a friends LFS and now Im growing out a bunch of 2-3 inch Trimacs, cyanoguttatus, salvini, argentea & JDs. Adding another grammodes pair tomorrow.

Oh...and they loved the caves underneath...its why the tank looks empty.
 
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