I'll give him, he does get some nice animals but some stuff he is out of his mind on. I hadn't heard about that Henlei, but it doesn't surprise me. There is a reason he got banned from all the forums.
CITES What does it really mean for ray keepers?
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Might still have a pic on my desktop, will look later. Its nice but now where near worth 3400 bucks. He is exaggerating the cites to make a sale. Even if they were totally banned out of Colombia they would just move them across the border and ship out of Peru...
Yes it is a very nice female marble but it is definitely not worth $900 in my opinion.
She has a unique pattern but I would never give more than five or six hundred for a marble unless it is a triple A pattern... or a nice pattern breeder.
But that is just me...
Here's the picture-
I think what it comes down to the small group of people willing to pay black Ray money for brownies.
But the Ray in question is said to be 15" so it should be a breeder.
With regard to a 1,000 dollar motoro,
.....and I have some swamp land down south for sale that is buildable lol
.....and I have some swamp land down south for sale that is buildable lol
He might get $1000 but it won't be from me...last ray I bought was a beautiful female marble for $125 !!
He seems to be more into selling second hand clothing than fish these days on ebay
you guys seem to think $350 for a marble is out of the question! look at discus origins sale ads! they are $400 for an 8" male..i'm not supporting john or his $900 female but he's not the only one raising prices! recently on facebook a seller had a bunch of marbles in the $350 range..prices are going up so deal with it or miss out. cities paperwork for exporting will raise prices even more next year..
{crawls out from under his Marble patterned rock}
Different strokes for different folks.... Here's my take on it.....
Some people like me will gladly pay that kind of money for a nice Marble. Truth be told I've paid almost twice that. Would do it again too. Do the math - how many pups does it take before the money is recooped? IF it is recooped who gives a flying (insert explicit here) what the animal costs?
People gladly pay 2-3X the amount of money we're talking here for black mutts. Some of you wouldn't be judging them as "NOT worth it" now would you?
All it takes is for 1 person to think it's worth it...... IF they have a super nice male and pair it with this female then the pups could be top shelf. Then what? You folks judge them as "NOT worth it" and one of my buddies who likes marbles like I do buys them all - cause I decide to sell them for 25% the advertised price cause 4 years ago he hooked me up fat with a 1500$ ray for $500.
What just happened? We're enjoying top shelf Marbles and swapping them with each other breeding even higher quality that we just continue to trade amongst each other giving us more and more top shelf Marbles to fill our tanks, then the tanks become so full of beautiful Marbles that it's funner for us to go sit in front of our Marble filled tanks then to sit behind the computer and watch you guys judge what is and is NOT "worth it".
Pretty soon top shelf Marbles can't be bought with money...... Only returned favors to each other - each other being us idiots out there that buy rays that "aren't worth it".
Wouldn't it suck to miss out on the opportunity to enjoy the hobby to its fullest just cause "it wasn't worth it"????? Last I checked if the money was recooped then isn't it WELL worth it?
This is exactly why top shelf Marbles aren't always real easy to obtain. You guys seem to think that rays should be "worth" a certain dollar value - well when you breed something you think is nicer then that "maket" value what do you think happens? I'll tell you exactly what happens - that gorgeous creation is never even offered to the market to be judged cause the creator judged the whole process as "NOT WORTH the headache of trying to sell to narrow minded individuals that judge what something is or isn't worth"
Different strokes for different folks.... Here's my take on it.....
Some people like me will gladly pay that kind of money for a nice Marble. Truth be told I've paid almost twice that. Would do it again too. Do the math - how many pups does it take before the money is recooped? IF it is recooped who gives a flying (insert explicit here) what the animal costs?
People gladly pay 2-3X the amount of money we're talking here for black mutts. Some of you wouldn't be judging them as "NOT worth it" now would you?
All it takes is for 1 person to think it's worth it...... IF they have a super nice male and pair it with this female then the pups could be top shelf. Then what? You folks judge them as "NOT worth it" and one of my buddies who likes marbles like I do buys them all - cause I decide to sell them for 25% the advertised price cause 4 years ago he hooked me up fat with a 1500$ ray for $500.
What just happened? We're enjoying top shelf Marbles and swapping them with each other breeding even higher quality that we just continue to trade amongst each other giving us more and more top shelf Marbles to fill our tanks, then the tanks become so full of beautiful Marbles that it's funner for us to go sit in front of our Marble filled tanks then to sit behind the computer and watch you guys judge what is and is NOT "worth it".
Pretty soon top shelf Marbles can't be bought with money...... Only returned favors to each other - each other being us idiots out there that buy rays that "aren't worth it".
Wouldn't it suck to miss out on the opportunity to enjoy the hobby to its fullest just cause "it wasn't worth it"????? Last I checked if the money was recooped then isn't it WELL worth it?
This is exactly why top shelf Marbles aren't always real easy to obtain. You guys seem to think that rays should be "worth" a certain dollar value - well when you breed something you think is nicer then that "maket" value what do you think happens? I'll tell you exactly what happens - that gorgeous creation is never even offered to the market to be judged cause the creator judged the whole process as "NOT WORTH the headache of trying to sell to narrow minded individuals that judge what something is or isn't worth"
