CLAUDIUS ANGUSTATUS
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First of all the Coura that awnsered this thread a long time ago isnt by any means the Coura you can find here today, today´s one is a allot more mature kind of Coura as most people can see by its ever decreasing use of silly smilles. And as such Im a better source of reliable information todayivgonmad;4840317; said:Wow, this thread is full of bad info... Cuora, where did you get all the rubbish you say? These turtles are nothing like a common musk/musk, they are actually very delicate and have very different behavior than any other turtle I have dealt with (LOTS). Also, sexually mature males are the most aggressive not the females. And they are definitely NOT easy to breed...
Tell me these are not beautiful animals >
Second what you Sir call rubish is corresponding to what I knew about this species at that particular time...you see when your favorite German hobbists tell you something about a species and your a kid you take that, no questions asked. And by any means all the stuff these guys and others told me about over the years worked just fine as husbandry advice so I never thinked outside the box as I never had to, if something is not broken it doesant need to be fixed.
Next you tell me that particular turtle isnt anything like other muds and musks but if you ask me I think are and that is a question regarding not animal behavior but you personal opinion and its just fine. That is like asking which one is better apples or oranges? Yea of corse they all have their specifics and YES they are a beautifull deligthfull litle turtle, would love to have a small group. I just dont see a reason besides peoples preferences and willingness to make big bucks, as to why this species should cost more in some circunstances then for example a Callagur borneoensis.
As for if its easy or dificult to breed...that is another subjective question. Many people say Sienberockitella crassicolis is a hard turtle to establish and it needs high temperatures to trive. Mine are just fine at 27C and have been so for many years. I find them hardy. The people I knew aparently finded Claudius angustatus relativelly easy to keep and breed. As for the female thing its because there was something about a male that didnt defend himself when the female bit him hard because he was focussed in mating...that I can not comment but I did see similar behavior in other turtles. Could be a gentler male, but anyway it was A LONG TIME AGO at least for me, like 14 years ago.
Nice turts.
The before last is a Staurotypus Salvinii, not an Angustatus.
Not to even mention the Alli
The before last is a Staurotypus Salvinii, not an Angustatus.
Not to even mention the Alli
coura;4840687; said:First of all the Coura that awnsered this thread a long time ago isnt by any means the Coura you can find here today, today´s one is a allot more mature kind of Coura as most people can see by its ever decreasing use of silly smilles. And as such Im a better source of reliable information today
Second what you Sir call rubish is corresponding to what I knew about this species at that particular time...you see when your favorite German hobbists tell you something about a species and your a kid you take that, no questions asked. And by any means all the stuff these guys and others told me about over the years worked just fine as husbandry advice so I never thinked outside the box as I never had to, if something is not broken it doesant need to be fixed.
Next you tell me that particular turtle isnt anything like other muds and musks but if you ask me I think are and that is a question regarding not animal behavior but you personal opinion and its just fine. That is like asking which one is better apples or oranges? Yea of corse they all have their specifics and YES they are a beautifull deligthfull litle turtle, would love to have a small group. I just dont see a reason besides peoples preferences and willingness to make big bucks, as to why this species should cost more in some circunstances then for example a Callagur borneoensis.
As for if its easy or dificult to breed...that is another subjective question. Many people say Sienberockitella crassicolis is a hard turtle to establish and it needs high temperatures to trive. Mine are just fine at 27C and have been so for many years. I find them hardy. The people I knew aparently finded Claudius angustatus relativelly easy to keep and breed. As for the female thing its because there was something about a male that didnt defend himself when the female bit him hard because he was focussed in mating...that I can not comment but I did see similar behavior in other turtles. Could be a gentler male, but anyway it was A LONG TIME AGO at least for me, like 14 years ago.
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh, didn't meant it that way. I am used to getting all kinds of good info from you and when I saw this it really surprised me, hoping you could update it with new info.
As far as judging difficulty, you are right. We all have grown differently and have developed different skills which makes it hard to say what will be hard for someone else.
As far as the tag on them, I guess its the rarity of the turtle (not just in the wild, availability counts much more), along with the "cool" factor and the ease of care that dictates the price of a turtle. I understand what you say about C. borneoensis being so cheap in comparison but it is a very large animal as an adult which makes it a hard to house turtle. I dunno maybe that is why it goes for such a low price?
I know but I love them so much, for me its a stunning turtle, both males and females. I like allot most large riverine species and Callagurs defenetly have all the caracteristics I fancy. On the other hand for example Podocnemis, I dont really like that much, I think it has to do with the shape of the head. By the way, Callagurs are big bucks in Europe, when do you guys export some?EricIvins;4843894; said:
It is okivgonmad;4843871; said:
And yes those are likely the reasons it has such a high price tag. However if I was going to spend that kind of money on turtle, he he, I wouldnt setle for litle... I would go for radiata or even better Platysternon 
Now that is a turtle I allways dreamed having coura;4849870; said:I know but I love them so much, for me its a stunning turtle, both males and females. I like allot most large riverine species and Callagurs defenetly have all the caracteristics I fancy. On the other hand for example Podocnemis, I dont really like that much, I think it has to do with the shape of the head. By the way, Callagurs are big bucks in Europe, when do you guys export some?
Too much hassle......Callies were my first Indo Turtle, and likely be my last though......
