Cleanest fish?

[nighthawk2207]

dude... ANY cichlid is cleaner than a damn oscar is!!!

get some nice sevs and geos, much less mess and they are BEAUTIFUL fish

thanks man atleast one person isnt quick to bash some one for asking
a simple question an thats the rout i will go.



bigfishrcool1193:
an i did read your post an i wasnt really meaning that comment towards
you but... you didnt sugest any replacement fish but you didnt bash right
from the get go either



an the bi weekly water changes wouldnt be so bad but the water is cloudy
after a week an thats just annoying an what are geo's?



How are discuss?

 

[bigfishrcool1193]

an i did read your post an i wasnt really meaning that comment towards
you but... you didnt sugest any replacement fish but you didnt bash right
from the get go either

you seem like you are meaning cleanest by not having to do as many water changes or doing waterchanges less often... if that's your meaning of cleanest than tetra type fish are for you... some severums and most geos need clean water meaning weekly waterchanges...

not trying to "hammer" you... its just that i own geos (they get weekly waterchanges) and have heard that they need clean water. but yes they are no where near as messy as oscars... just remember the smaller the fish the less messy they most likely are going to be.

 

[bigfishrcool1193]

geos (short for geophagus) are nice looking, peaceful, south american cichlids...

you may be able to get away with bi weekly water changes... it just seems like you would rather have to do water changes less often than that... if you try bi weekly waterchanges get a water test kit to make sure the water parameters are normal.

 

[bigfishrcool1193]

most people will tell you that discus are the hardest to keep... they need pristine water.. also if they dont have clean water they can become stunted and not grow correctly.

 

[hybridtheoryd16]

What makes most cichlids dirty is the type of foods being fed. If you were to get a predator and feed live there is alot less mess because there is no pellets of other foods to cloud the water and collect on the bottom.

On my pred tanks that get live exclusively, I only change water for nitrate control. And if I was to hook up a drip system I would not have to worry about that etheir.

I do vacumming maybe once a month to once every other month. And that is only to get what is hiding behind plants and drift woods. If I added a few power heads to stop that I would beable to wait longer before seeing any dirt.

Also i have learned having a extreme turn over rate on your filtration makes a big difference with dirt accumulation. For me right around 20x turn over works the best. But you can't have that type of current and feed pellets or they will just go down the drain.

 

[Hayabusa]

thanks man atleast one person isnt quick to bash some one for asking
a simple question an thats the rout i will go.



bigfishrcool1193:
an i did read your post an i wasnt really meaning that comment towards
you but... you didnt sugest any replacement fish but you didnt bash right
from the get go either



an the bi weekly water changes wouldnt be so bad but the water is cloudy
after a week an thats just annoying an what are geo's?



How are discuss?

If you water is cloudy after just one week you are doing something very, VERY wrong.

What size tank are we talking about here? and what are in it other than oscars? how many oscars?

To me this sounds like massive overcrowding and the filtration cant keap up.

In my 180 I have two oscars, 3 VERY large tinfoils, massive pleco and 2 limas nearly full grown and my water is crystal clear always, and has been for 12 years the tanks been running.

Never has it been cloudy, so something is wrong if its cloudy after a week, there is a problem here other than oscars being messy.

Oh and by the way, regardless of what fish you have you should be doing weekly water changes, I do 25-50% on all my tanks depending which one it is.

 

[Lupin]

most people will tell you that discus are the hardest to keep... they need pristine water.. also if they dont have clean water they can become stunted and not grow correctly.

Heh, discus are not that difficult to keep. The trouble is most people are eager to place the juveniles (smaller than 4 inches) in setups that they do not get frequent water changes and frequent feedings to be able to grow that they become ridiculously stunted. Adults at 5 inches and over are more forgiving and can withstand normal routine including twice a week water change but no more than that. Read discus section. There are many discus threads there that will cover the same topic over and over.

 

[dudey]

solo serrasalmus species of piranha are very clean. You can only keep one in a tank at a time. Once they hit a certain point you only have to feed two to three times a week. small weekly water changes once a week and you are good to go.

 

[Deaths Sting]

im tired of having to change my water once every to weeks .

i would do a weekly water change regardless of bio load. anything less is lazy and irresponsible.

 

[Lupin]

i would do a weekly water change regardless of bio load. anything less is lazy and irresponsible.

You chose this hobby. It is your obligation to do what you are supposed to do especially as it is not a "mere" fish you are obligated to care for, the moment you buy it.