Cloudy Tank - Think it's still cycling?

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twk1 said:
Wow, It's very rare to hear of anyone with success with adding fish right away and not having to wait for the cycle. Usually some people throw in some of the established gravel or filter material that carries the benificial bacteria and still sometimes the fish don't even make it.
Lucky You!

I too have pretty much always added fish right away. never lost a fish or had poor water quality. i've done so with pictus cats, bettas, gar, oscars, guppies, and tetras. god bless minneapolis public water works.
 
checked the Ammonia and nitrite/nitrate

Ammonia showed up as zero
according to the test strips the Nitrite is 0ppm thats the closest color the strip matched. And the Nitrate test strip color matched 20ppm.
i checked the ph and it's still good around 6.8-7.0 i lost the reference chart for the ph test but after adding the drops the water stays blue which means its around 7.0 PH

what do you think about these parameters? is the water too clean?

thanks
 
what do you think about these parameters? is the water too clean?

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the water can never be "too clean" You shouldn't be doing water changes while the tank is cycling.
 
rvd said:
checked the Ammonia and nitrite/nitrate

Ammonia showed up as zero
according to the test strips the Nitrite is 0ppm thats the closest color the strip matched. And the Nitrate test strip color matched 20ppm.
i checked the ph and it's still good around 6.8-7.0 i lost the reference chart for the ph test but after adding the drops the water stays blue which means its around 7.0 PH

what do you think about these parameters? is the water too clean?

thanks
your parameters are good, If you have a fair sized tank and have conditioned your water and seeded your filter there is no reason not to add a small number of hardy fish, the system needs their waste to grow, just don't add to many at a time.
Cloudy water usually comes from 3 sources, the first is aldae bloom,in fresh water it is green and is just microalgae consuming unused nutrients, cut back on the light level and hours a bit, add plants, and step up the filtration,
gray water is bacterial and is the bacteria consuming organics, it smells bad and can kill fish, partial water changes and patience are needed. yellow, white, brown, non smelly cloudiness is from either suspended particles, or dying from things like tannin. It is usually from partly cured wood, sedimentary stones, or poorly washed gravel or sand, you just need to figure out which.
 
the cloudiness is grey but the water doesn't smell.. There is only 1 fish in the tank 4" Red Piranha and the tank is a 68gallon, theres really not much waste coming from him, especially this past week. He is in a negative mood and is barely eating, i dont know what to do here?? this is the first time i have ever had these issues in all the years ive been into this hobby.. Cloudy Water but the parameters are fine, fish is not feeding, not active.. He looks healthy and has his colors still.. very frustrating to say the least.
 
Is it a sand bottom? If so did you remember to wash the sand? The times I have had bacterial bloom, because something died unnoticed , it smelled bad.
 
its not sand, just regular aquarium gravel that i've had for years. i removed it from the old tank and put it all in the new tank.
 
There is some good info here. Here is a technique that I have used... successfully.

* If you have any other tanks in your home, switch the filters; containing 'known good' bacteria. The 'used' filters will cycle the tank fast. Plus, there will be enough bacteria in the water from the 2nd tank to 'kick-off' the bacteria in the new filter. Switch the filters back, when the cloudiness clears.
* If not, go to your lfs and have the 'squeeze' their sponge filters into one of their fish bags, then insert the 'intake' tube of your filter into the plastic bag and let the filter suck in the bacteria.... don't pour the bacteria into the water, this is less affective.
* New gravel/substrate and tank decor can contribute to cloudy water. You may want to soak them in a bucket/tube of water, until the cloudiness clears.
* Having fish in your tank is good, but in most cases very bad on the filter and water quality, not to mention bad for the fish. I would suggest reducing them down to one to three and feed less; small amount once a day.

I hope this helps!
 
i only have one fish in the tank.. a 4" Red Piranha.. He can't be putting out much waste cause hes barely ate anything in the past week.
 
What did you feed him before he stopped eating? Feeder Goldfish?

How old are your test kits? They do become outdated after time..

Still sounds like a bacterial cloud to me.. Are you adding Cycle? When I worked at PetSmart I would always get people coming in using cycle, and it would mess up their tanks bad. I prefer Seachems 'Stability', as I have used it multiple times with no problems.

Even though Ammonia/Nitrite isn't registering, it still sounds like ammonia in the water, IMO.. Especially if its pre-used gravel and you haven't added any random decor. Your tank could of gone through an initial cycle, then when you added more biomax beads, it continued to grow even more beneficial bacteria. Be patient, don't overfood, and stay away from 'quick-fix' chemicals if possible.
 
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