Clown Loach breeding?

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mine are about 7-8 inchish, just wanna know if there is anyway at all of boosting growth rate i know they are slowing down but hey worth a try.

prob try lots of meat and plenty of plants in the tank, then maybe have a spray bar on a power head or external filter maybe. do lots of water changes for prob two months then all of a sudden stop for about 3 week see if the nitrates go up much and then do a big water change to replicate dry and wet season ( i think :confused: lol)

however i get on i'll keep everyone updated!!:)
 
A lady in Sweden has had females produce roe at 10 - 11 cm sl, here is a link,http://www.bollmoraakvarieklubb.org/artiklar/praktbotia/clown loach.htm. An article was posted some time ago on loaches on line about simulating the dry to rainy season, originaly from a cory website. The article is quite long and if you would like a copy let me know and I will see if this site will allow such a large post.

I currently do not have enough large clowns to try breeding but I am still trying to set up for an attempt at the blue loaches, modesta. Holding me back is talking the wife into one more tank !!! I have been able to have the females produce roe by raising the the temp to 83-84f, treating an ick outbreak, but being in the main tank I did not try anything else. The modesta are 5-6" and I have had them for about 3 years.

Good luck
 
i have heard that they spawn in under the sediment (know there is another word for the dirt and stuff on the bottom) and this old guy i met one day in the LFS said that they cant be bread becuase of the natural nutriants in the dirt where they live.
 
wow BRG, thats a great site, i searched and could only find the one article on breeding them repeated on many diff sites. Good find
 
i have 3 large clowns and i reckon i have two male and one femaleposs. the two bigger ones do fight on and off and go a dark colour make clickin sounds and spread fins to look as big as poss. but they never touch the smaller one and she don't get involved.
i have two modesta too! they are about 3 -4 inch and hate each other lol!! yareckon i should have a school when breeding or just the three biggest ? i have 12 altogether and can get loads more for dirt cheap or nothing!
 
Just read that article, mate what a awesome find!!! really good to read that. obviously very keen lady lol wonder if she has blonde hair and blue eyes like a typical swede lol

the only article i read was from the loaches online website, which was very informative too.
 
i have heard that they spawn in under the sediment (know there is another word for the dirt and stuff on the bottom)

I think the word you're looking for is "mulm"....
But then again I could be wrong..
Best to ask Guppy!
 
Some information posted on the loach forum:

Here's some interesting reading from Kamphol:

For the record, breeding the genus Botia cannot be done on a small scale, ie in an aquarium. To get the loaches to breed can be done artificially, or as many of the hobbyists prefer naturally in the aquarium...that can be done. The problem is that eggs of Botias as they come out are tiny specks but then they hydrate (take on water) and the cytoplasm (not nucleus) increases in diameter by tenfold. Think of frog eggs, you have a large transparent egg with a small opaque nucleus. This happens so that the eggs can become neutrally bouyant and be dispersed naturally with the current. Therefore, any type of filtration will trap and collaspe these delicate eggs. The only way is to have a large volume of water with an airstone (with a slow bleed) as the only source of circulation to incubate these eggs. And I mean large volume of water as Botias are in general very fecund, A paper in the Thai Fisheries Gazette (42(5): 378 - 380) reports that a 19.5cm 130gm female modesta was measured to have 15gm ovaries yielding a count of 60,000 - 80,000 eggs. Many, many fish tanks would then be need to partition out just one brood (as i do for research), or as commercial breeders do, they use large cement tanks, so that the volume of water is large enough to dilute any fouling (by bad eggs). Once they hatch, the fry are also neutral bouyant, being pelagic/nektonic (goin' with the flow) until their yolk sacs are absorbed and then they start feeding in the water column and then they start hugging the walls or bottom. Once again, only large volumes of water are needed becuase any filtration will suck up the fry...and because you're feeding them, volume has to be large enough to dilute the nitrogenous compounds resulting from fouling food and dead fry.

This gentelman lives in Indonisa.
 
ah, right. that does throw a spanner into the works, BUGGER!! ummm have to think long and hard about this!:(
 
there is only one report (that i could find) of anyone ever breeding clown loaches...I will see if i can find it for you (its on a couple of sites)

I am going to try though too when i have room for another tank (or two)
I was able to breed clown loaches in my 125 I had set up for Cory’s with fast moving water I had low hatch rate though
 
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