Cold Snap Causes Frozen Iguana Shower

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Mike D;2655034; said:
i woke up the morning and it was -10 hahaha
for me its - 35 ;)
 
Chelydra Serpentina;2655378; said:
iguana are listed as a danger to burrowing owls...a struggling species. iguana are thought to take over burrows and possibly destroy/eat eggs. also, dense iguana burrow sites cause major erosion of canals...largely a human problem, but high erosion is never good for the ecology...namely,..fish. also...favorite foods are other non-natives and iguana population aids in the spread of those non-native plants. so, to say that it has no effect on the native species is hard to believe. its a 6' lawn mower...it has to have some effect.

what bothers me is that some people try to say that the solution is to ban the sale...i have trouble seeing how that would help when there is a documented breeding population in the wild. promote the sale and promote the capture of wild lizards.


Yes thats true but that is not the green iguana its what I think is called the black spiney Iguana.
Which funny enough has established itself further North in the state which gets colder than south up to 20 plus degree difference.

Thus your correct but I was talking about green iguanas.
You would be surprised how fast the foilage here grows esp come Spring/summer daily rains . I cant see iguanas doing a thing.

Keep in mind I have only been here bit over a year thus no expert but even the iguanas in my area HATE each other unless breeding season thus only so many iguanas per area.

Even the black spiney iguanas we love however again when it comes to them your correct they damage native fauna even sea turtle areas but the greens don't
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the two reports i read mentioned green iguana by name. it doesnt matter to me...i'm just generally against transplanting any species and it bothers me a bit when people start to think its ok. honestly its amazing how little impact they actually have. i would say the least out of any invasive species i've ever heard of. i was just making the point that...even if we dont really feel the impact, its there and steps need to always be taken to control the growth of species like this. there isnt much you can do...but if they happen to all fall out of the trees....i would think we have some responsibility to try and get rid of as many as possible.
 
Chelydra Serpentina;2655470; said:
the two reports i read mentioned green iguana by name. it doesnt matter to me...i'm just generally against transplanting any species and it bothers me a bit when people start to think its ok. honestly its amazing how little impact they actually have. i would say the least out of any invasive species i've ever heard of. i was just making the point that...even if we dont really feel the impact, its there and steps need to always be taken to control the growth of species like this. there isnt much you can do...but if they happen to all fall out of the trees....i would think we have some responsibility to try and get rid of as many as possible.


Green iguanas do not live under ground only the black spiney does thus what you read is incorrect.
The writer of those articles got his/her iguanas mixed up.

Which is why the greens fall out of trees in rare cold spells or they head for the water and sit in it as I have seen(they actually float on floating plant masses)

Only the black spiney lives under ground and thus can withstand colder N.Florida temps over night.

Greens dig during spring but even than only few adult females to lay eggs .

I agree black spiney iguanas are a threat to those tiny owls still way way less than the zillion feral cats all over this state but yes they are a threat.

I see green iguanas and again living here bit over a year I am no expert but cant fathom anything negative about them as far as native fauna.

# I am not a paid green iguana lobbyiest lol .

BTW I agree just because I dont see the damage they cause doesn't mean it doesn't happen but I would like to hear or read of damage that they cause which isnt actually the Black spiney iguana which they are talking about.
 
sources included:
PA state museum
florida park service
florida atlantic university, wilks honors college
florida department of environmental protection
national wildlife research center
 
green iguana's listed as a problem both by wildlife agencies and florida public works department....based on ^^ research

anywho, time for sleep....mfk meet in the cities tomorrow and its gonna be a long drive in the snow
 
Louie;2655267; said:
I used to live in Long Island went to to PA every summer awesome mts and nature .
My favorite herps being salamanders are all over PA .

:headbang2 We do have a lot of salamanders. And our number or turtle species ain't bad either. I just wish there were more lizards. :(



Oh yeah, the iguanas causing the problems with their diggin are the Black Spinys.
 
Louie;2655512; said:
Green iguanas do not live under ground only the black spiney does thus what you read is incorrect.
The writer of those articles got his/her iguanas mixed up.

Which is why the greens fall out of trees in rare cold spells or they head for the water and sit in it as I have seen(they actually float on floating plant masses)

Only the black spiney lives under ground and thus can withstand colder N.Florida temps over night.

Greens dig during spring but even than only few adult females to lay eggs .

I agree black spiney iguanas are a threat to those tiny owls still way way less than the zillion feral cats all over this state but yes they are a threat.

I see green iguanas and again living here bit over a year I am no expert but cant fathom anything negative about them as far as native fauna.

# I am not a paid green iguana lobbyiest lol .

BTW I agree just because I dont see the damage they cause doesn't mean it doesn't happen but I would like to hear or read of damage that they cause which isnt actually the Black spiney iguana which they are talking about.
Here ya go:D 100% agreed;) And yes green iguanas, normaly dont dig holes, spinys are a more terrestrial species and they will dig thouse not only to nest but also to sleep, hide,etc. Just read that link you posted Louie and its simply horrible:irked: That #%& woman wants them all KILLED even if there are human solucions:swear::angryfire:wall: If I lived within shipping rage I would take like 5 or something:( I could still try however another thing, but I dont know nothing about internacional shipping. But anyways GUYS this iguanas, both spineys and florida greens would have a very high pet demand here, we dont know yet spiney tails so they would be a novelty and so high demand, and florida produces some of the most gorgeous greens because of the mixed genetics. Its a way to make money dont waist it;) Oh just remenbered: Mike D he can help! Mike felling at least a lilte willing to take a brand new species on your collection:D
 
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