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The Real 118

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ok i use to feed my reds only Goldfish i stop that and started to feed them sinking pelits and they have lost like all of their color??? help my water is

Amm = .25 ppm
Nitrite = 0 ppm
Nitrate = 0 ppm
PH = 8
 
the ammonia might do it its pretty toxic.
 
water changes. your biofiltration should be removing it, but based on information you provided your tank isnt cycled yet. is your tank newly set up? did you do anything recently?
 
judging by the info your tank is not cycled there should be no amm reading and there should be a reading of between 5-40 ppm nitrate

if the ammonia goes above .5 ppm do water changes to bring it back down above this the ammonia is toxic
 
i have had it set up for 9 mounths and i did a big water change and added 3 new fishes
 
if you used tap water straight up for the water change then the chlorine could kill off some if not all the bacterias in the filter (especially you mentioned you just did a big WC).
the other reason could be the three new fish just added. doesn't matter how long you had the tank running, you'll only have enough bacteria to support the bio load created by whatever stock you have in the tank. any additional source of bio waste will take time for enough bacterias to catch up, so it's like a mini cycle.
 
ok cool i us aqua safe for water changes and ok i see so it will take some time to play caugh up lol sould i add bacteria? what about the color lose?
 
The loss of color is really the least of your worries if your fish are being exposed to ammonia. I'd say that after you get the biological filter back on track, you'll see their color return. I don't know what kind of pellets you're feeding, but pretty much any pellet is going to be better than feeder goldfish!

Keep testing your water and doing water changes as necessary to keep ammonia low. Pretty soon, you'll see nitrite, keep going, and keep it low. It's going to take longer because you can't let these "spike" as you would when cycling normally, so just be patient and keep doing water changes. Here's an article on the cycling process, just in case:

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm

A beneficial bacteria will help, but be sure and buy one that's not just crap. I like Dr. Tim's One And Only -- it's pricey, but it actually works. I've heard good things about Seachem Stability, but never experienced them first hand. Another idea is adding seeded media -- media from a tank with a functioning biological filter. For now, until the tank is cycled, feed as sparingly as you can.

Either way, wait until you get ammonia and nitrite to zero and have nitrate until you worry too much about their color. And keep up with the pellets -- it's really so much better for them. Also, I'm not that familiar with Piranha, but I'm guessing they'd love some cut-up squid and shrimp, which do great things for my RTC's red color, so maybe they'd help your guys as well.
 
The Real 118;3612627; said:
ok cool i us aqua safe for water changes and ok i see so it will take some time to play caugh up lol sould i add bacteria? what about the color lose?
you can if you want, or you could just wait it out.
i am still worried your reading zero nitrates, as thats not normal, unless your wc is like 80%

the color lose is a result of stress, from poor water conditions it should comeback with better water. i
 
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