Corn Snake Not eating.

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Reptiles get bored of their diet sometimes. That's why keepers offer alternative or treats once a month.

There was a gecko thread on another forum, where it refused to eat crickets until it had a waxworm and it started eating crickets again. So I am assuming your cornsnake is displaying the same behaviour.

Either that or build a larger enclosure and offer varying sizes of hide spots.
 
His enclosure is large enough, (although currently already setting up a larger one anyway), considering you dont know the size of my viv, how could you say that. He could be in 2 ft, 5 ft or 6 ft viv for all you know lol.
Thanks for your input about the food, Like I said I have tried it though, and hes not taking ANY food whatever prey item/size/colour may be.
 
I find snakes are happy when there are varying sizes of hides at different heights with a temperature gradiant from one end to the other end of the enclosure.

I don't get why people on here say snakes don't do well in large enclosures. What snakes need are TIGHT hides -- not small enclosures. They do fine in the wild and they spend most of their times in cracks and creaves. I guess snake keepers just find it boring to see their snake hiding all the time.

Now if one doesn't know what size of hide it prefer, why not offer different sizes? The same concept as hermit crabs' shells.

Another idea is that it might be bored. I have heard if a herp is kept in the same environment for too long -- it might cease to eat. So simulate its mind by changing stuff around.
 
Like I said, doing a new enclosure, should be done by tonight or tomorrow, gonna put loads of bogwood and fake plants in for him, hopefully it may stimulate his feeding behaviour. No one says snakes dont like large enclosures, most say, hatchling or young snakes dont, which is true. I dont agree with 8 ft boas being kept in something 8 ft long and 4 ft wide all its life, as is widely accepted. Its not on.
 
Eh, when I read back through the threads, I have seen so many people suggest downgrading or downsizing the vivarium sizes for adult snakes when they're stressed. What is more likely the case is that the hide is not tight enough.

I know when I had cornsnakes, they went for the hides that are the same size as them when coiled up -- with almost no air space.

Anyway, good luck with your new vivarium/enclosure! I just assume your current/old enclosure is the standard one or two hide-equipped vivarium.
 
Corns love to hide and bury, but recently i had him on kitchen towel to monitor he was doing ok (because of problem with feeding obviously) maybe I should give me a substrate he can burrow under, he will probably feel ALOT more secure
 
A couple other "feeders" you might wanna try:

- Gerbils
- Rat pups (they got a different odor than mice)
- Hamsters

I know it seem like I am throwing in every rodents in there... but it just seem very common in herps where it refuse to eat until it is offered a treat then normal feeding behaviour continue.
 
Reptiles get bored of their diet sometimes. That's why keepers offer alternative or treats once a month.

Wrong. Consistency in your husbandry routine (for snakes at least) is by far one of the most important aspects of keeping them successfully. Snakes are programmed by nature to occupy a very specific niche...what you are doing is "anthromorphising" them, or, apply human characteristics and emotions to an animal that is physiologically incapable of experiencing those characteristics and emotions.

Another idea is that it might be bored. I have heard if a herp is kept in the same environment for too long -- it might cease to eat. So simulate its mind by changing stuff around.

Again, that's anthromorphising your animals. The #1 reason why snakes refuse food is because of some error on the part of the keeper...wrong temps, humidity, too much handling, placement of the cage, etc etc etc.

I don't get why people on here say snakes don't do well in large enclosures. What snakes need are TIGHT hides -- not small enclosures. They do fine in the wild and they spend most of their times in cracks and creaves. I guess snake keepers just find it boring to see their snake hiding all the time.

Snakes don't do well in large enclosures not because of security...yes, you are right, it is about the hides being right that is important, but you are missing something- large enclosures are extremely difficult to heat and humidify properly...basically leaving vast areas in the cage that are either too cold, too warm, not humid enough, etc etc that causes ill effects to the snake therein.
 
elevatethis;804774; said:
Wrong. Consistency in your husbandry routine (for snakes at least) is by far one of the most important aspects of keeping them successfully. Snakes are programmed by nature to occupy a very specific niche...what you are doing is "anthromorphising" them, or, apply human characteristics and emotions to an animal that is physiologically incapable of experiencing those characteristics and emotions.

Thus why people do it ONCE a month. Many of the forum members choose to anthromorphize her pets, so why not address it as so? I could become all technical like you.

Beside a change in diet should only happen ONCE. Period. At the beginning of the thread, she continued to feed chicks to the snake -- she didn't know about it. If it expect a constant supply of "better-tasting" food, then it will not eat what it used to eat. If it was me, I would offer one different kind of rodent, and only one of them, every two or three months then it is back to the mice.

Sometimes when a herp stop eating, it is an indication of a suppliment is missing OR its instinct is telling it to look for something else.

Again, that's anthromorphising your animals. The #1 reason why snakes refuse food is because of some error on the part of the keeper...wrong temps, humidity, too much handling, placement of the cage, etc etc etc.

She tried several things, I am just throwing up some more ideas. Everyone else pretty much listed the things you listed, so why should I repeat them?

The problem with snakes is that if there is a problem -- there is a billion things that can go wrong. Let look at the potiental problems, and it is nto all of them, from most likely to least:

- Too much handling/improper handling
- Improper equipments
- Fasting for breeding season
- Feeding schedule is not consistant enough
- Hides are too big/too small (snakes like to be able to squeeze in with almsot no air space)
- Not enough hides are placed
- Overall temperature is too high/too low
- Overall humidity too high/too low
- A larger pool or waterbowl may be needed
- Need a temperature gradient throughout the vivarium -- both vertically and horizontally
- Need a humidity gradient throughout the vivarium
- Being handled too often
- It is fed too often (this is the weirdest thing about herps, some will just keep eating; others will fast if it is fed too much)
- Diet is too fatty
- It need a change in diet once in awhile (only as a treat ONCE, then it is back to the usual diet)
- Brain simulation is needed, so new environment is needed

Also studies in zoos show that stimulation of the mind in ANY animals bring about actually help their health. All you have to do is move a couple plants around -- that is enough for keeping a snake active or in anthromorphising term: "busy and curious." So it is the keeper's fault for not keeping the animal active.

Snakes don't do well in large enclosures not because of security...yes, you are right, it is about the hides being right that is important, but you are missing something- large enclosures are extremely difficult to heat and humidify properly...basically leaving vast areas in the cage that are either too cold, too warm, not humid enough, etc etc that causes ill effects to the snake therein.

Any professional snake keepers will tell you that the best way with keeping snakes is producing micro-environment. You let the snake choose the environment it want. Most of the sizes that snakes are being kept in are too small to do micro-environments. Thus you have to set it up right the first time. Yes they feel more secure in a smaller enclosure, but majority of the keepers out there don't even provide proper hides so they have to downsize their enclosures. Observe them in the wild, most hides are about the same size as the snake itself -- there is no room for air in those hides. The key is keeping minimum and maximum requirements in one or the other end of the vivarium. Let it choose what it is most comfortable with.
 
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