Costa Rican & Nicaraguan Dovii trying to spawn

[VRWC]

My Costa Rican & Nicaraguan Dovii are trying to spawn. The Male Nic is a Rapps F1 (someone in the tank got hold of his tail) and the female Costa Rican is a Wild Caught (pond) from Don Conkel. They are both about 5.5 inches TL.

Being from different geographic regions, would it be considered a bad thing for the hobby to cross the 2? Id probably just give the fry to friends and a LFS.

 

[darth pike]

Technically they would be hybrids, mixing two differant races of the same species (according to the dictionary deffination at least) even though we in the hobby don't consider them so.

My only consider is if later down the road when someone does DNA studies and breaks up dovii into more than one species like was done with convicts or several krib species.

 

[fishguts]

i cant awnser this question at all but i look at it this way. im sure native sunfish have bred with sunfish from other areas and i dont know of anyone calling them hybrids. i could be wrong. just a couple cents

 

[D-Train]

Its not like you're diluting the gene pool, there are plenty of each geographical variant that you breeding the two wont cause too much of a fuss....

 

[zorba4884]

Technically they would be hybrids, mixing two differant races of the same species (according to the dictionary deffination at least) even though we in the hobby don't consider them so.

My only consider is if later down the road when someone does DNA studies and breaks up dovii into more than one species like was done with convicts or several krib species.

hybirderness is breeding of dirrerent species like a tiger and lion that make a ligon or a donkey or a horse and getting a mule each results in a hybird that is sterial and can not reproduce. If an animal is the same species but a different geologcical varient and breeds with another it is not a hybrid. that like saying if an aisan decneted man has a babby with an european female the babby is a hybrid which it is not the babby takes physical form with features of both parents that each parent developed from there familys living in different places resulting in a physical adaptaion and appears like why african decended people have darker skin because they lived under the sun in the servan comepared to the white european who sometimes sees little sun.

so in short there will be and is nothing wrong with the 2 dovi breeding and im shore there fry will grow up to be just as good looking.

 

[darth pike]

Try grabbing a dictionary before posting. Wait, here ya go ...

Free Dictionary.com:

hy·brid (h

br

d)
n. 1. Genetics The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties, species, or races.
2. a. Something of mixed origin or composition.
b. Something, such as a computer or power plant, having two kinds of components that produce the same or similar results.

3. A word whose elements are derived from different languages.

Merriam-Wesbster Online Dictionary:

hy·brid Pronunciation: \ˈhī-brəd\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin hybrida Date: 1601 1: an offspring of two animals or plants of different races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera
2: a person whose background is a blend of two diverse cultures or traditions
3 a: something heterogeneous in origin or composition : composite <hybrids of complementary DNA and RNA strands> <a hybrid of medieval and Renaissance styles> b: something (as a power plant, vehicle, or electronic circuit) that has two different types of components performing essentially the same function


Yes, differant races of the same species are hybrids, humans included ... including myself given the dictionary deffination.

As stated, we in the hobby don't tend to use this meaning of it (west african krib and killie breeders do, as do some Malawi peacock keepers though) but technically, the dovii would be.

I'll throw in the Grammer book later.

 

[zorba4884]

Free Dictionary.com:

hy·brid (h

br

d)
n. 1. Genetics The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties, species, or races.
2. a. Something of mixed origin or composition.
b. Something, such as a computer or power plant, having two kinds of components that produce the same or similar results.

3. A word whose elements are derived from different languages.

Merriam-Wesbster Online Dictionary:



hy·brid Pronunciation: \&#712;h&#299;-br&#601;d\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin hybrida Date: 1601 1: an offspring of two animals or plants of different races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera
2: a person whose background is a blend of two diverse cultures or traditions
3 a: something heterogeneous in origin or composition : composite <hybrids of complementary DNA and RNA strands> <a hybrid of medieval and Renaissance styles> b: something (as a power plant, vehicle, or electronic circuit) that has two different types of components performing essentially the same function


Yes, differant races of the same species are hybrids, humans included ... including myself given the dictionary deffination.

As stated, we in the hobby don't tend to use this meaning of it (west african krib and killie breeders do, as do some Malawi peacock keepers though) but technically, the dovii would be.

thats a definition from dicionary.com it doesnt mean anything. try getting a good scientific definition of hybrid that is lamens terms of hybridnization refer only to features not the gennetic make or the scentific name for them would be the same as there are the same phylum-family- specie etc so are not hybrids. In the casses of dogs same species but different breeds but are not scientific hybrids like a mule. The deffenition you gave also means any none A-sexually reproduced organism is a hybrid in wich yes it is as gets genes from both parents so a hybrid of the parents genes but not a scientific hybrid as it still the same species.

 

[zorba4884]

Anyway im not stealing or turning this thread into a fight thats my view. The fry will still turn out great. Ill give you one point thoe because yes i can not spell with out proof reading or type.

 

[themancmt]

oooooooooooooook they will still be dovii and still look good. half of the dovii in lfs are mixed because not to many people know the difference any way. if you are worried about it beeing bad for the hobby use em as feeders. they are your fish and it's your call.

 

[zorba4884]

oooooooooooooook they will still be dovii and still look good. half of the dovii in lfs are mixed because not to many people know the difference any way. if you are worried about it beeing bad for the hobby use em as feeders. they are your fish and it's your call.

they should be great fish i wouldnt destroy them/feeders