coudl this work? or would it be madness!!

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I'm not one to tell people what to put with what. But, with that said and if you decide to do it, I definately wouldn't do a bare tank. I'd put in plenty of driftwood and plants to break up the line of sight. At least this way, the dovii and umbee don't have to stare at each other 24 hours a day. I would almost guarantee it would only serve to fuel frustration which can ultimately lead to nuisance aggression when one has finally had enough of the other. "He was looking at me cross eyed."

Take teeth out of the equation. Both the umbee and the dovii are on a whole different level when it comes to the damage they are capable of doing just by their sheer size and speed. I've seen a 15" jaguar explode with energy swimming faster than I thought possible. I thought he was going to break 1/2" thick glass he hit it so hard. And he got this speed up in the distance of about two feet. Now, I try to imagine the power from a fish not only twice that length but more than twice as heavy and with six or seven feet with which to get a good head of steam ramming a tankmate. A lot of decor will prevent the opportunity for this to happen in most cases. And justs taking away the opportunities for aggression to take place is sometimes enough.

And I'd put in a lot of convicts. Maybe two dozen. It'll give both the umbee and dovii "little people" to sort of rule over, maybe satisfying them a little more. I like to keep predators happy to get them to coexist. And by happy, I mean not frustrated. I feed mine a big variety and large amounts and include a variety of live foods. I give them all a "house" using decor that they can claim. I try to manipulate the variables to work for me rather than against me.

But more than all of that, it's going to largely depend on the individual personalties of the fishes you select. And keep in mind, what works for me might not work for you. And at the end of the day, you're dealing with two of the biggest and "meanest" cichlids out there. Anything can happen.
 
terd ferguson;2351082; said:
I'm not one to tell people what to put with what. But, with that said and if you decide to do it, I definately wouldn't do a bare tank. I'd put in plenty of driftwood and plants to break up the line of sight. At least this way, the dovii and umbee don't have to stare at each other 24 hours a day. I would almost guarantee it would only serve to fuel frustration which can ultimately lead to nuisance aggression when one has finally had enough of the other. "He was looking at me cross eyed."

Take teeth out of the equation. Both the umbee and the dovii are on a whole different level when it comes to the damage they are capable of doing just by their sheer size and speed. I've seen a 15" jaguar explode with energy swimming faster than I thought possible. I thought he was going to break 1/2" thick glass he hit it so hard. And he got this speed up in the distance of about two feet. Now, I try to imagine the power from a fish not only twice that length but more than twice as heavy and with six or seven feet with which to get a good head of steam ramming a tankmate. A lot of decor will prevent the opportunity for this to happen in most cases. And justs taking away the opportunities for aggression to take place is sometimes enough.

And I'd put in a lot of convicts. Maybe two dozen. It'll give both the umbee and dovii "little people" to sort of rule over, maybe satisfying them a little more. I like to keep predators happy to get them to coexist. And by happy, I mean not frustrated. I feed mine a big variety and large amounts and include a variety of live foods. I give them all a "house" using decor that they can claim. I try to manipulate the variables to work for me rather than against me.

But more than all of that, it's going to largely depend on the individual personalties of the fishes you select. And keep in mind, what works for me might not work for you. And at the end of the day, you're dealing with two of the biggest and "meanest" cichlids out there. Anything can happen.

One of the best answers i think has ever been given
 
wow theres alot of good answers for this im not really qualified to answer as ive never kept any cichlids above 12"
but all i can really say is youve been given amazing advice, and you have the power to attempt this RIGHT. if you put in enough study and make sure you know a whole plan of action and a little luck and alot of hope you should have your dream tank
 
terd ferguson;2351082; said:
I'm not one to tell people what to put with what. But, with that said and if you decide to do it, I definately wouldn't do a bare tank. I'd put in plenty of driftwood and plants to break up the line of sight. At least this way, the dovii and umbee don't have to stare at each other 24 hours a day. I would almost guarantee it would only serve to fuel frustration which can ultimately lead to nuisance aggression when one has finally had enough of the other. "He was looking at me cross eyed."

Take teeth out of the equation. Both the umbee and the dovii are on a whole different level when it comes to the damage they are capable of doing just by their sheer size and speed. I've seen a 15" jaguar explode with energy swimming faster than I thought possible. I thought he was going to break 1/2" thick glass he hit it so hard. And he got this speed up in the distance of about two feet. Now, I try to imagine the power from a fish not only twice that length but more than twice as heavy and with six or seven feet with which to get a good head of steam ramming a tankmate. A lot of decor will prevent the opportunity for this to happen in most cases. And justs taking away the opportunities for aggression to take place is sometimes enough.

And I'd put in a lot of convicts. Maybe two dozen. It'll give both the umbee and dovii "little people" to sort of rule over, maybe satisfying them a little more. I like to keep predators happy to get them to coexist. And by happy, I mean not frustrated. I feed mine a big variety and large amounts and include a variety of live foods. I give them all a "house" using decor that they can claim. I try to manipulate the variables to work for me rather than against me.

But more than all of that, it's going to largely depend on the individual personalties of the fishes you select. And keep in mind, what works for me might not work for you. And at the end of the day, you're dealing with two of the biggest and "meanest" cichlids out there. Anything can happen.



i feel like im hangin out with a bunch of old people sitting at tables with little white cards in front of them cause i just have to scream out BINGO!!!!!!!!
 
Ehhh once they all got huge they would most likely fight alot with that much room they would wan't to set up territorys and then once that happens its war
 
I think you'd have a shot of that working if you left out the Umbee.
 
damn im soo torn haha, you thikn i shoudl leave out the umbee? if i ahd to chose i think i would want the dovii for sure atleast.
 
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