Could Rays work in this footprint?

[andersp90]

It is YOUR opinion that keeping 3' silver aro in 8'x3x'25" is unacceptable. Anyway, this is a stingray section...

I have this feeling that i am responding to someone who is not at all that well versed in English. Read my response and think before you respond.

I have no idea about rays max size requirements, but 3' SILVER ARO CAN LIVE IN a 8' LONG AND 3' WIDE AQUARIUM (25" of water depth is plenty sufficient) ... obviously you have never kept a silver aro before and if that is true, please do not give advise

I got an A in english. So yes, I DO understand what you are saying.

Yes a sliver can live in a tank like this. But so can you in a tiny jail cell.

So as long as an animal can sustain life, its ok?

You will get a chock when you explore the ways of keeping fish in europe.

Here, things like that would be unacceptable!

 

[ctoychik]

I got an A in english. So yes, I DO understand what you are saying.

Yes a sliver can live in a tank like this. But so can you in a tiny jail cell.

So as long as an animal can sustain life, its ok?

You will get a chock when you explore the ways of keeping fish in europe.

Here, things like that would be unacceptable!

OK so l assume that your rays are living in a tank with a width at least 3 times the ray's length?

I am sure i have seen plenty of european tanks on MFK that are significantly smaller than 8'x3'x25" ... i have not seen very few glass tanks on MFK that are 4' wide.

In any case, i come back to your original point: do not generalize about common sense of the US and Asian people regarding keeping large fish - most of the largest private set-ups that i have seen so far are in North America and Asia. I, as an example of an Asian, have a large set-up for my fishes. So, your blanket generalization about the US and Asian fishkeeprs is not acceptable at all.

 

[abortedsoul]

 

[DB junkie]

Jail cells are roomy when you consider the fact that they are much bigger then our height or body length.

I guess you can keep your fish in whatever you want...... But in this case I REALLY hope you are reincarnated as a Silver Aro. I bet you'de wish you had a different opinion.

I personally try to keep fish in tanks that are at LEAST twice as deep as body length. Sure as hell not the same.

 

[ctoychik]

Jail cells are roomy when you consider the fact that they are much bigger then our height or body length.

I guess you can keep your fish in whatever you want...... But in this case I REALLY hope you are reincarnated as a Silver Aro. I bet you'de wish you had a different opinion.

I personally try to keep fish in tanks that are at LEAST twice as deep as body length. Sure as hell not the same.

So you are saying that the correct way to keep a 3' silver aro is to have a 6' deep aquarium? By deep i assume you mean wide.... there are definitely very few set-ups on MFK that have at least 6' wide (mine would be one of them).

Surely, even you do not keep your armatus to that standard (and armatus is even less flexible than silver aro)... or do you? (hmmm though i do seem to recall that you have quite a large set-up)

According to the above conversation, it seems that you guys are telling me that almost all people on this forum are wrong to keep silver aros then ey?

 

[keepinfish]

I was going to get a wierd foot print tank, 8'x3'x either 17" or 25" high. I was wondering if rays could work in there? Mainly motoros, i found a few that are $100 online at about 7-8". Im going to get that book and research up on them before i do anything.

O ya the tank is going to consist of 2 longnose gars and 1 silver aro.

as your title reads "could rays work in this footprint"... the answer is Yes.
There is a chance that a motoro MAY outgrow this tank eventually, but you will have some time before this happens. That tank would be a great tank to start off with a couple/or trio motoro's or retics. Everybody seems kinda grumpy today.... as far as the silver and the longnose are concerned depending on size currently they should be fine for a long while also.

 

[armac]

Anders how big are your tanks, and give us a description of the fish living in them. Hate for your fish to be cramped.

 

[DB junkie]

My Armatus are all under a foot. They are skiddish fish. They are in my pond right now (8 by 8 by 2) They will spend the winter in a 300. In the spring they will more than likely go into the 750. If there is ANY sort of problem..... Back to the pond. Armatus can hit 4 foot. Therefore they will likely be kept in the pond after 2 foot (750 is 4 foot)

Aros are flexible. You might get by with a 4 foot wide tank.

I feel strongly on giving fish ample room..... Again... Opinions are like azzholes. Everyone has one. Unfortunately everyone that keeps monster fish doesn't have a pond.

I won't lie...I believe that there are a LOT of cramped fish here.

You don't have to worry if you expect the best and prepare for the worst by having a backup plan...... And that plan being at least 6 foot wide and allready cycled.

 

[abortedsoul]

My Armatus are all under a foot. They are skiddish fish. They are in my pond right now (8 by 8 by 2) They will spend the winter in a 300. In the spring they will more than likely go into the 750. If there is ANY sort of problem..... Back to the pond. Armatus can hit 4 foot. Therefore they will likely be kept in the pond after 2 foot (750 is 4 foot)

Aros are flexible. You might get by with a 4 foot wide tank.

I feel strongly on giving fish ample room..... Again... Opinions are like azzholes. Everyone has one. Unfortunately everyone that keeps monster fish doesn't have a pond.

I won't lie...I believe that there are a LOT of cramped fish here.

You don't have to worry if you expect the best and prepare for the worst by having a backup plan...... And that plan being at least 6 foot wide and allready cycled.

Although that is asking quite a lot, I think having a backup space for them available is a wonderful idea. I think it would also be wonderful to have a team of ichtheologists available, not just on call but on duty, at my house at all times.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic, so do not take that the wrong way. I am simply trying to demonstrate the resource to available quality of fish care ratio. (It WOULD be really awesome to have at least one ichtheologist at least living in the neighborhood, just in case!) While I do agree it is inhumane to keep fish in a location that is too cramped, I believe that a healthy medium can be struck between quality of care and amount of money spent.

Of course you would never keep a ray in a fish bowl, but expecting everyone to build a pond is, in my opinion, erring a bit too far on the side of good fish care at incredible cost. Not that all ponds cost an incredible amount of money, but some do and not everyone has access to enough space to build a large pond. (People who own ponds- you are CRAZY lucky! Will be joining you as soon as possible...)

I hope I was not offensive; I simply desire to bring some logic to bear on the issue at hand.

 

[DB junkie]

Not offensive at all. But if you can't house a monster through thick and thin then DON'T buy one. It's really that simple. If you can't house 8 Rays when they can easily cover a man hole then DON'T buy them.....

You don't need a ichtheologist to figure this out.

I don't get offended when I see people trying to cram thier 30 inch arros in 2 foot tanks...... Hell, if they need I'de lend them the prybar. But in the end I might chuckle a little thinking about the fact they could be reincarnated as that very fish..... THAT would suck.