Could this work?
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I meant like getting a couple eels to control aggression I noticed they get aggressive when it's 2 but in a group I'm hoping for them work,
Also I meant all the eels are going to be around the 4"Mark
Probably remove the gar till they grow?
I was also hoping to train them to eat tilapia and shrimp that's what my others were doing??some worms once in a while??and ghost shrimps,baby crawfish.?
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Also I meant all the eels are going to be around the 4"Mark
Probably remove the gar till they grow?
I was also hoping to train them to eat tilapia and shrimp that's what my others were doing??some worms once in a while??and ghost shrimps,baby crawfish.?
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shrimp are high in thiamine... bad as a staple diet.
I see where your going with your idea and imo it coudl and would work if you stuck to one or possible 2 species w/ multiples of each. The only long-trm success i've had is with mixing the same species in groups... I've never had even short term success mixing species.. the aggression just got way outta hand.
ben you don't think a 1' armatus, 1' fire, and 1' M dayii in a 6' tank is going to be an issue with other species that Max at 8" ? I personally do, and wouldn't try it unless I had multiple tanks to move eels to once they started taking territories, because they will. my 120 holds a single M dayii and I tried comming her with another she had riginally grown with ( I seperated to try and get bulked up abit since she was a hog) and ended up finding him a few weeks later dead... no signs of the rays or gar killing him, but she had started the night before aggressing him.
I've kept my gar with eels now for 3yrs+ and imo my success has to do with the eels being the same length or close to it as the gar. I have no experiance w/ payara outside stores.. so I honestly have no clue how it would or would not work.
There is a reason even in zoos you don't see multiple species of spiney eels housed together as adults. I would love to see it work, but i have never seen a long-term comm that did not result in one winner outside a few groups of fire eels, never seen a group of adult armatus for that matter.
a 220 can house one armatus or one fire eel for life.. maybe.
I see where your going with your idea and imo it coudl and would work if you stuck to one or possible 2 species w/ multiples of each. The only long-trm success i've had is with mixing the same species in groups... I've never had even short term success mixing species.. the aggression just got way outta hand.
ben you don't think a 1' armatus, 1' fire, and 1' M dayii in a 6' tank is going to be an issue with other species that Max at 8" ? I personally do, and wouldn't try it unless I had multiple tanks to move eels to once they started taking territories, because they will. my 120 holds a single M dayii and I tried comming her with another she had riginally grown with ( I seperated to try and get bulked up abit since she was a hog) and ended up finding him a few weeks later dead... no signs of the rays or gar killing him, but she had started the night before aggressing him.
I've kept my gar with eels now for 3yrs+ and imo my success has to do with the eels being the same length or close to it as the gar. I have no experiance w/ payara outside stores.. so I honestly have no clue how it would or would not work.
There is a reason even in zoos you don't see multiple species of spiney eels housed together as adults. I would love to see it work, but i have never seen a long-term comm that did not result in one winner outside a few groups of fire eels, never seen a group of adult armatus for that matter.
a 220 can house one armatus or one fire eel for life.. maybe.
I think I might just stick to an armatus until I get a bigger home for all of them :/
For now I think I might just get a group of fire or tyre track eels and grow them out and see if I get a couple out of them and keep te couple
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Sorry Amy, I must have misunderstood you. I thought what you meant was that all of the species mentioned would outgrow the tank size-wise. Of course you are right that mixing them all would lead to huge aggression issues. I've only heard of 2 cases where the 2 big species where mixed, both times there was a small group (3-4) fire eels with a single arm in a very large tank ( 450 gallon + ).
OP, if I where you I'd go with a single Armatus or 2-3 M. Dayi. Can't say much about their behavior though since I've never even seen one in RL. They just don't seem available in Europe which is weird.
In one point I have to disagree with you though, Amy!
Shrimp aren't a bad staple diet. They do not contain much thiaminase compared to goldfish or similar, and also make up a large portion of a spiny eels natural diet.
Although it is always good to vary the diet. Any kind of seafood is great if you can get your eel to eat it.
If we all agreed about everything then nothing new would be learned and our pets ultimately would suffer. 
But I will agree to disagree with the Pro-shrimp feeders.
But I will agree to disagree with the Pro-shrimp feeders.