I caught them local. They are in all the rivers here. What is weird is that in smaller rivers, they stay small (about 8-10 inches). In the larger rivers, they reach their full size. Oh, by the way, 'here' is Florida. They are temperature sensitive so you will need a heated indoor pond during the winter.Druu;1549381; said:So, where'd you catch these guys? I want to get a few.. then start a kiddie pool pond![]()