LOL jagster.. I just got a little Dovii from Cichlasomniac, which I believe yours are the parents. I've had him 4 days and so far he eats like a champ.. including bits of raw shrimp!my dovii pair crush earth worms from teh bait shop like its there job but wont touch raw shrimp lol i dont get it. Also feeders but after about 2 thhey just end up spitting them out.