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Jack Dempsey
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is it me of are barbs never actually satisfied? I got these Hampala Barbs recently and I am tryin to grow them as fast as possible. I am doing 2 water change a day and I am feeding them 5 TIMES a day!
and within 1-2 hours after feeding they r totally skinny again...
they r growin like weeds though... but geeze... these fish r gonna make me poor is they still eat like this when they r older...
 
they crap out alot of their body weight but ur forcing stress on the fish b.c. they r eating so much and u can cause long term damage to internal organs if you continue
 
Damn, dude. slow your role!
feeding 5 times a day is not necessary. 2 times a day, when you wake up and go to bed will suffice. also mix the diet up so they are getting different nutrients. feed a high quality high protein food if you want them to grow faster.
2 waterchanges a day? that is definately a great way to keep them in a constant state of stress and shock. water temps will vary alot, water quality is going to vary alot, not to mention putting your hands in the tank. water does not become stable the moment you add it to the tank. it takes a day or 2 for the filter to catch up

no matter how you slice the pie, its gonna take a while for you to grow a barb into a monster.
 
I don't necessarily believe you can feed your fish and grow them fast enough to cause detrimental effects. I have heard it many times before. I would point fingers at hormone laced foods fed in ornamental fish farms overseas and in FL.. I have seen Bala Sharks with abnormally large bodies and tiny heads. and I think alot of guppies/tiger barbs/bala sharks die from these hormone enhanced foods and grow-out methods.

Multiple water changes daily would only cause stress if you allow them to.. Make sure you don't have swings in the temperature or pH. If you are doing water changes this frequently, you shouldn't have to worry about water quality varying.

Just because you do water changes dosn't mean you have to clean or touch the biological media, or even put your hand in the tank. So the idea of having the bio-filter catch up for a few days would only apply if you mess with them.


As far as growth, just monitor your nitrates and try to keep them >20.. Base your water changes on how fast your nitrates grow. A consistent schedule is the best, like %50 every other day, clean the bio-media every few weeks.

Raising temperature will increase metabolism and should increase growth.

Having the pH/hardness of the tank simulate the wild habitat of the fish you are trying to grow will help..

Do some research on photo periods and you can find some info on how commercial fish farms use day/night lighting effects to stimulate the fish to grow faster. Again, this is questionably detrimental to the fish.

Feeding them a high quality food, especially in PELLETIZED form is the best. Alot of Vitamins and Nutrients are water soluble (vit-C), and will dissipate into the water within a few seconds of hitting the water in flake form. A high quality mini pellet (hikari micro-wafers, cyclop-eeze granules) swallowed like a pill will be the most effective for growth and nutrition. Perhaps mix in some high protein frozen foods like Mysis Shrimp or Beefheart.


Might look into medicating your fish for internal parasites too.. If they are looking skinny with all that feeding.. I would try internal parasite pellets, as they are effective.. If you fish don't take them right away, starve them a few days and they will pop them like pills (making them more effective just like vitamins).. If not, treat the entire tank with something like PraziPro as a general anti-parasite bath..


Hope that sheds some light bro'zer.
 
Thanks Miles for the rational answering. the rest of u... u think im some sort of fish retard or sumthin? Stop pretendin u guys know everything. Ofcourse I know I needa keep the temperatures steady and I know I am not over feeding, I am just feeding small amounts so they dont get overly full belly so they can break it down fast. The water I am using for water changes is pretreated and already steady. so dont be givin me **** bout something i didnt even post about. I was just wondering if everyone elses barbs eat so much too...
 
mb_barton;1221505; said:
Thanks Miles for the rational answering. the rest of u... u think im some sort of fish retard or sumthin? Stop pretendin u guys know everything. Ofcourse I know I needa keep the temperatures steady and I know I am not over feeding, I am just feeding small amounts so they dont get overly full belly so they can break it down fast. The water I am using for water changes is pretreated and already steady. so dont be givin me **** bout something i didnt even post about. I was just wondering if everyone elses barbs eat so much too...

I don't think your comment is necessary at all. These people are trying to help you. That is why you posted your question. If you don't like a particular answer you get, maybe move on and wait for the next one instead of inciting a war.
 
power feeding for power development rarely ever works
 
mb_barton;1221505; said:
Thanks Miles for the rational answering. the rest of u... u think im some sort of fish retard or sumthin? Stop pretendin u guys know everything. Ofcourse I know I needa keep the temperatures steady and I know I am not over feeding, I am just feeding small amounts so they dont get overly full belly so they can break it down fast. The water I am using for water changes is pretreated and already steady. so dont be givin me **** bout something i didnt even post about. I was just wondering if everyone elses barbs eat so much too...

Dont try to act tough on the keyboard, cause you will only catch the attention of mods.
If you actually read to the bottom of my post before you got steamed, you would see I said no matter how you slice the pie, its gonna take a while for a barb to grow out.
patience, young grasshopper, patience.
 
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