I'll try to make this as short as possible. I had 4 rbp that were about 4in long. I bought 3 rbp for a friend which were about 2 1/2 in long. mine are now 5 to 5 1/2 in long and his have gone from 2 1/2 in to 7 and 8 in. I feed mine pellets as a staple and rotate shrimp and fish fillets. He feeds 200 feeder goldies a week and lunch meat, ham and turkey. WTF is going on here??? Scientifically mine are healthier but his are growing multiple times quicker than mine and have the most beautiful coloration I've ever seen. This is really making me mad, especially when I tell him it's not good to feed them that crap.
crazy p diet question
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A fish eating live food will outgrow a fish eating ANYTHING else every time. Pellets aren't all they make em out to be.(IMO) I've been saying it for years! A live fish will have the nutritional value of anything made or packaged, I don't care what kind of fish it is. Thing that gets me everyone preaches, oh goldfish have a growth inhibiting hormone.big deal piranha have it also but piranhas still eat each other.I personally think that since piranha have this also that they've built a tolerance to it, or just plain aren't affected by it. Although I've found the exact same thing with oscars.a oscar that's fed goldfish will outgrow one fed anything else. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything that you hear.I guarantee every place that sells piranha online feed their fish feeders.opefe talks of a piranha living 25+ years n I'd bet $$$ most if not its whole life it was fed feeders.I say make your own mind up n not what someone else trys to FEED you because they think its right.just because Joe blow thinks n says something doesn't make it true.
Thanks man. I'm not so much worried about what other people think but as someone prone to scientific research and thinking, I'm working toward my PhD in Marine Bio, when a study shows the effects of blocking b1 Vitamins I tend to go with it. I do believe that I will be buying some feeder goldies though after what I have seen.
Its usually these same people that say no red meat, like piranha never eat red meat in the wild.lol. Hundreds if not thousands of discus breeders feed beefheart as staple in Asia n Europe feed it for a reason. There's been studies that discus do in fact have emzines to break red meat down, so you know piranha have this also (hence the teeth n predator tendencies)
Maybe growing your piranha out on live then switching to so called healthier food is the way to go?
Maybe growing your piranha out on live then switching to so called healthier food is the way to go?
I think the growout on live and switch later is what I'm going to go with. Everyone that knows me refers to me as THE fish guy so I better have the best fish darn it. lol
Feed your fish whatever you want. I use nutrition everyday to treat human patients in the hospital. I preach an anti-thiaminase diet for fish, not because I read it was bad on the internet somewhere, but because I studied biology, chemistry, and nutrition at the university level and I understand exactly what it does to their little fishy bodies. I'm never going to willingly feed my fish something that I know is bad for them.
If anybody wants to feed their fish that garbage please be my guest.
The piranha retailer feeds feeders because they keep a lot of fish that were swimming in the amazon last week and they're not trying to grow them out or keep them. Why should they go through the trouble and expense of breaking wild fish from a live fish diet? They just keep them alive long enough to sell. They also keep huge rhoms in 50 gallon tanks, and 6" geryi in like 5-10 gallon tanks should we do that too?
The fish farms in asia feed beef because it's cheaper than buying quality foods when bought in bulk and they've got their eyes on the bottom line too. I've heard a lot of LFS owners say that they won't order fish from some of those places anymore because the fish are dying as soon as they make it to the states too.
If anybody wants to feed their fish that garbage please be my guest.
The piranha retailer feeds feeders because they keep a lot of fish that were swimming in the amazon last week and they're not trying to grow them out or keep them. Why should they go through the trouble and expense of breaking wild fish from a live fish diet? They just keep them alive long enough to sell. They also keep huge rhoms in 50 gallon tanks, and 6" geryi in like 5-10 gallon tanks should we do that too?
The fish farms in asia feed beef because it's cheaper than buying quality foods when bought in bulk and they've got their eyes on the bottom line too. I've heard a lot of LFS owners say that they won't order fish from some of those places anymore because the fish are dying as soon as they make it to the states too.
it sounds like urs are stunted... if you bought them when they were older you have no way of knowing what kind of care they were in before you got them.. this is why i try to buy the "freshest" fish at the pet store.
my Ps went from nickel sized to 8+ inches in less than a year... fed on mostly pellets with occasional shrimp, fish fillets and beefheart..
my Ps went from nickel sized to 8+ inches in less than a year... fed on mostly pellets with occasional shrimp, fish fillets and beefheart..
also if that is your piranha in your avatar.. the shape of the jawline suggests that it isn't a juvie anymore.. also suggests the stunting