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Interesting thread. I find the talk about a trend toward closed loop systems quite interesting. I can not count how many times I have been flamed, over the years, for advocating large closed loop systems over sumps.
 
Interesting thread. I find the talk about a trend toward closed loop systems quite interesting. I can not count how many times I have been flamed, over the years, for advocating large closed loop systems over sumps.
Oh i don't doubt it I had loved sump passionatley my problem with closed loop was not knowing for sure how clean i could keep the system turns out much easier LOL!!!And heck let's be honest it's tough sometimes to change our own way of thinking or how weve been shown how to do something!!!!
 
Interesting thread. I find the talk about a trend toward closed loop systems quite interesting. I can not count how many times I have been flamed, over the years, for advocating large closed loop systems over sumps.

There's pros and cons on both. It just depends on your application.
I see separations between the types of fish like rays vs messy fish vs typical fish. Main complaint is maintenance which I know some people enjoy but they just won't admit it. Water quality and disease issues have not been talked yet. Also designing for efficiency which many don't care because they don't pay the electricity bill.
 
Don't get hung up on microns and leave the beads out of the equation.
My pond with a 1/15hp Wave pump (3000gph very low amps) + 40 Wave UV. No beads or separate bio filter. Low back pressure allow uses of a small pump. High flow with low energy = saves electricity $$$$$.

Mechanical cartridge filter after 1 week with 75 mahseers.

You tell me if this will catch big poo and what micron do you say liquid algae is?
Simply "rinsed with a hose". Yes.

Craig was right! We're lucky to have you here, Ken.
 
I agree no one system fits all applications. Even though I prefer closed loop for most of what I do, and that is all I am running at the moment, I am contemplating a large sump that lives in the basement and would feed a large salt water tank on the first floor. A closed loop would be easier to set up but a large sump would be more economical for running the 5 or 6 hundred gallon tank I am thinking about. Also a sump in the basement would minimize equipment in the tank and make protein skimming easier.
 
Craig was right! We're lucky to have you here, Ken.

haha...thanks but that because I was on vacation this week and killing time on this thread. After tomorrow it's back to work and less time to chat.
 
Interesting thread. I find the talk about a trend toward closed loop systems quite interesting. I can not count how many times I have been flamed, over the years, for advocating large closed loop systems over sumps.

I agree no one system fits all applications. Even though I prefer closed loop for most of what I do, and that is all I am running at the moment, I am contemplating a large sump that lives in the basement and would feed a large salt water tank on the first floor. A closed loop would be easier to set up but a large sump would be more economical for running the 5 or 6 hundred gallon tank I am thinking about. Also a sump in the basement would minimize equipment in the tank and make protein skimming easier.

I actually built my first sump in the basement of my old house for a saltwater reef tank I used to run. With saltwater the extra water in a large sump (mine is a 300G Rubbermaid) help minimize changes in water chemistry. When I moved and built my house I set up the sump in the crawl-space. Now that I do freshwater-only, the sump isn't as necessary, but I still love the space the sumps affords for DIY filtration.

For my latest tank I decided to go closed-loop, mostly because I need it to be as silent as possible - it is in my 4th grade classroom.

Reeflo Blowhole 1100 powered NuClear canister setup (nowhere near as monstrous as most of the filtration in this thread):

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This pump is the quietest pump I have ever heard, as close to absolutely silent as a pump can be.
 
I actually built my first sump in the basement of my old house for a saltwater reef tank I used to run. With saltwater the extra water in a large sump (mine is a 300G Rubbermaid) help minimize changes in water chemistry. When I moved and built my house I set up the sump in the crawl-space. Now that I do freshwater-only, the sump isn't as necessary, but I still love the space the sumps affords for DIY filtration.

For my latest tank I decided to go closed-loop, mostly because I need it to be as silent as possible - it is in my 4th grade classroom.

Reeflo Blowhole 1100 powered NuClear canister setup (nowhere near as monstrous as most of the filtration in this thread):

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This pump is the quietest pump I have ever heard, as close to absolutely silent as a pump can be.
Awsome set up and just goes to show how compact you can make your filtration to suit your needs!!!!
 
That is a nice canister setup. I run a very similar ocean clear system that also has a heater canister in it. I particularly like the tray you have it all in, I might copy that the next time I set one up. Might do that in my middle school science room. Assuming I finish college and can find the job I want.
 
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