cross breeding

[jason longboard]

alright,im tired so hang with me here,lol.They say they look down on breeding say a rosy boa from baha with any of the others but what the heck starts the new morphs out then in the first place.Same with everything else,sorry other than the leos i bread i never got into diferent morphs and still like the ntive looks better but back to topic.Without getting to into fancy termenology lets break it down.How do you end up with regular odd morphs with 2 normal boas,i wonder this with cresteds also so 123 go.lol.

 

[SimonL]

I have opinions on both sides; I like cross breeds for the variety, but they must be labeled as such, and this also creates problems when the crosses become more common than the purebreds.

 

[Gourami Swami]

Why is it a problem when crossbreeds become more common than pures? If its just a color morph difference, I dont think it matters.

 

[varanio]

Adaptation, genetics, enviornment are all factors, and lastly man playing Dr. Frankenstein. lol I am neither for it or against it I do like the look of some morphs and others I dont care for much really. It all boils down to what the person's personal taste is, and as a breeder they must appeal to the masses to make $ if its their main support for income.

 

[Tylervsmith]

So Jason you are speaking of INTERspecies or INTRAspecies breeding?

If INTER, then it is selective, you notice a small trait, and think it may be able to be passed on, you find another said animal with same trait and breed them. The offspring should have the trait come out a little more, and then so on and so forth.

 

[SimonL]

Why is it a problem when crossbreeds become more common than pures? If its just a color morph difference, I dont think it matters.

Similar to the problem with hybridized fish...if the wild population is endangered, the actual species itself disappears.

 

[varanio]

Similar to the problem with hybridized fish...if the wild population is endangered, the actual species itself disappears.

Good point Simon which is why more serious hobbyists like to keep the lines pure, where as pet seekers collectors, and exploiters of said traits, like the colored stuff banded stuff two headed stuff and the list goes on. We talked about this in another thread for about 4 pages. I see some species being saved by hobbyists rather than the scientific community because they were overlooked.

 

[SimonL]

I see some species being saved by hobbyists rather than the scientific community

I agree. There are a number of fish that are almost no existant in the wild due to habitat destruction which we've practically saved as aquarium fish.

The Endlers Liverbearer is a perfect example. About to get wiped out in it's rather limited natural habitat, but abundant in aquariums. How long before they are hybridized with common guppies to create "morphs" and the pure Endler vanishes?

I'm trying to think of a reptile analog here lol...

 

[varanio]

Try anything that lives in remote islands in the indo archapelago ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Kioka]

This is why we have:

Locality, species, intergrade, hybrid and lastly morph... then the whole concept of reptile breed. We are going into the breed territory with the popularity of scaless bearded dragons and such.

I am a strong adovocate of keeping locality pure, since they are carriers of genes that make THEM unique.

You know how many crossbred boas that are marked as Nicaraguan, but they are 8' long? (A purebred Nicaraguan female should only max out around 6')

It's the same with those 9' Irian Jaya Carpets, et cetera. They look normal, but their genes are not pure.