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knifegill;4932480; said:
It's sad, yet true that catfish have fewer fans than less-awesome families of fish. There's no other group of fish with more dark, spiky, gigantic, long-lived gluttons than the catfish. And aside from that, there are plenty of very beautiful species as well! Yet the fishkeeping world is just too focused on teeny sparkly fish like tetras to notice.

As for PBass, I think that ship sailed last year. Wait to see what's next. I don't think anybody's buying Pbass anymore. My LFS can't move them.
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Blasphemy, Pbass are never over ;). You simply see who are the true keepers and bandwagon keepers. One thing Ive seen in the hobby over and over...aside from the fads and hyped fish of the week is that all fish have their niche...It seems like more people keep them than actually do. This goes for Cats, Bass, Aro's, Dats, Rays, Bichirs, Gars, etc. The second issue is how many people actually keep them to full grown. With cats, and Bass in particular you see a lot of people buy their new bass or RTC, or what have you, are suddenly an expert on the fish, and as soon as its passing 12" they need to part with it. There is a lot of food and maintenance that comes with them. Which most cant comprehend or underestimate.
Another aspect is that as soon as a fish is readily available...they tend to lose that 'desired fish' deal they have going for them. Seen it happen with Kelberi, Indo Dats, Armatus, Azuls, Arapaima, etc. They still sell but because more people can get them or pricing has gone down, suddenly not as much interest. Seems like controlling availability has to come in to play if you want to maintain a decent value.
There's nothing wrong with liking what you like, and likewise you're never going to know unless you give it a shot, but people tend to not research.
amazonfishman;4932997; said:
Only extremely rare pbass would bring good profits. I'd say at the moment that pinima since they haven't been available in a few years would be pretty good and azul's always sell but the market would saturate with them pretty quickly if you got to breeding them regularly.

Like Laz said, it's all hormone induced breeding on the large pimeloids and even in most of those cases it's housing breeder size fish in outdoor ponds in tropical climates that are a lot bigger than 20'. I know they breed TSN this way in many countries in SA as a food source and hybrids initially developed for this same reason.

I'd like to try breeding Planiceps & Tigrinus down the line but that wouldn't be for profit really it would be more for personal reasons and to ease the burden on the wild caught fish to help out with their populations.
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You'd be surprised how Pinima may or may not sell. It all depends on how many are available (as per my previous reply). If you want to sell out, and at value...it needs to be hard to come by...Bring in Cichla Intermedia, Vazzoleri, Thyrorus, or Mirianae and see how those fly. Azuls will be bred Stateside very soon.

A lot of the Hybrids also come out of Asia as the large Pims are being used as food fish there as well. Hybrids have hybrid vigor going for them....less time to get larger, means more output in less time.
 
I think if you have the space and resources, you should breed another species.
There's too many RTCs out there already in captivity that need proper homes.
Other then that, sounds like an exciting project and I wish you well with it.
 
I will figure oiut something I really want to breed some type of monster...not so much for profit, but for the fun of it an ability to say, "I bred ______ an raised them." I will keep you all posted as to what happens.
 
breed feeders :)
 
It just shows you how little you know about RTC's

Put 6 RTC's in a 20' round pond you will have 5 dead RTC's and one happy RTC
 
Are you in upstate NY?? My biggest fear in building your pond would be the year round heating bill! i doubt any project could overcome the power requirements (and the feeding requirements) which would cost about 8000-10000 per year. You would need some very prolific breeders to fund such a venture.....It does sound like you are doing it more for yourself.....My guess is the yearly costs will equal your build cost each year AT LEAST.

All that said. if you have the land and the bankroll I say go for it! In the US the only fish i know bred for profit are catfish and tilapia.....and most tilapia farms do not last two years!
 
Diskboy12;4935534; said:
I refuse to believe that. Its called a large cat community. Its done many times before.
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well start off with this one yea you can keep a few rtcs with each other in a 20' pool not soo much like said before 5 dead one happy rtc they can be very mean s.o.bs and if you take in to acount the inch per gallon rule you would need some around 30,000,00gallons based on 40'' rtc.breeding them is possible pointless but possible. i dont know how many rtcs i have saved in the last 6 years theres to many that already need a good home.but good luck with what ever you decide to breed..


PS.sounds like your in it for the money not the fish.
 
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