Curse my luck!!!

[Peanut_Power]

So I only have ONE of my 'normal' snooks left. Turns out its a male which isn't such a bad thing, really starting to color up right now. He has cleaned a breeding spot!! His tube is down and he is guarding a few rocks on one end of the 125gal from EVERYTHING. I mean the Viejas, BGK, HERBERT. If anything gets too close to his rocks he chases them off.

The BUMMER part is I don't know where I am going to find/get a 'normal' morph snook at?! I want to try and keep the strain 'pure' if possible. I am almost tempted to just go and try to find a regular red snook though and breed them out that way.

Any ideas what the results would be? Mottled? Pie bald? Half normal, half of them red? Not sure if anyone has done this before.

So thats my rant for the day.

 

[Modest_Man]

It's odd genetics that don't really follow the simple Mendelian genetics. Reds tend to only throw reds, and normal colors tend to throw normal colors.

I'd say go normal X red then cross the offspring back to dad to get a good percentage of normal.

 

[Peanut_Power]

I'd have to grow all the youngings out and find a normal female out of the bunch if there is one. That would definitely take some time. Make sense though. For being a normal morph he sure has a lot of reds in his caudual and dorsal fin. Its gorgeous!!

Now I just need to find a few female red bay snooks......

 

[Modest_Man]

I'd have to grow all the youngings out and find a normal female out of the bunch if there is one. That would definitely take some time. Make sense though. For being a normal morph he sure has a lot of reds in his caudual and dorsal fin. Its gorgeous!!

Now I just need to find a few female red bay snooks......

Are you saying that you'd have to grow them out for the F1 cross? All the fish should have the same genetics in the first generation so you could just pick any fish once you can tell the sex.

For the F2 cross you'd need to grow them out to find the normal colored ones.

 

[ProblEmZ]

I'd have to grow all the youngings out and find a normal female out of the bunch if there is one. That would definitely take some time. Make sense though. For being a normal morph he sure has a lot of reds in his caudual and dorsal fin. Its gorgeous!!

Now I just need to find a few female red bay snooks......

Statements like those demand pics for sharing! hehehe

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Is herby learning to stay away from that corner yet? Hope he is ok...

 

[Peanut_Power]

Is herby learning to stay away from that corner yet? Hope he is ok...

Not really, the snook just pretty much pushes her out of the way. She has pretty much taken a liking to my angel though.... . Need to remove it, not doing so hott with all those triangle chunks missing from it.

Thanks for the tip there Modest. Know a limited amount about genetics, mostly with snakes and birds though. Still kinda new to the fish part.

Be a long process. Worth it though. At least I could sell both batches right!

If someone breeds the F1 with another red snook, what is going to happen then?! LoL! 50% reds? 50% normals?

 

[Camphilophus]

pictures of the snook yawn now!

 

[Modest_Man]

Not really, the snook just pretty much pushes her out of the way. She has pretty much taken a liking to my angel though.... . Need to remove it, not doing so hott with all those triangle chunks missing from it.

Thanks for the tip there Modest. Know a limited amount about genetics, mostly with snakes and birds though. Still kinda new to the fish part.

Be a long process. Worth it though. At least I could sell both batches right!

If someone breeds the F1 with another red snook, what is going to happen then?! LoL! 50% reds? 50% normals?

The amazing thing with genetics is it's the same applied to all species. Basic Mendelian genetics are the same for peas as for humans. It just gets a bit more difficult when it's not basic genetics and you have co-dominance, incomplete dominance, and multiple traits on multiple alleles.

As to the F1 fish being bred to a red vs. a normal color, I'd assume that they'd be mostly red. If it followed classic Mendelian and red is dominant to normal (which seems to be sort of the case...) you'd get all red with 25% carriers for normal.

 

[Hdeuce]

the problem is once you breed the fish red x normal any offspring will still have the chance to produce red and if red is dominant, then you will have permenantly "muddied up" the line. if you are gonna do it dont ever sell one as a "normal" , or as a "red" for that matter.