i think what jcardona is saying Dixon is the fact that u had fish in there from the beginning is that by having those fish in there eating and excreted there waste, which converts into ammonia ,which is necessary for BB needed to establish a tank, is indeed still cycling a tank...im fishless cycling which is im adding the ammonia manually from CLEAR ammonia. This is much safer for your fish being they dont have to survive,IF they do, the high ammount of ammonia the fish will produce before the filters have established the BB needed for your setup