Datnoids should have their own CATEGORY!

[T1KARMANN]

I say no.

It is not needed.

well i dont think this site needs a p.bass forum or a snakehead one

i personally think the snakehead form looks silly stuck on the top of the page on its own

come to think of it why do we even need a pirahna forum

 

[AquataHolic420]

well i dont think this site needs a p.bass forum or a snakehead one

i personally think the snakehead form looks silly stuck on the top of the page on its own

come to think of it why do we even need a pirahna forum

SO what forums are considered "NECESSARY" i mean why have 25 forums of fish when u can have 3.........Fresh/Brackish/Salt...... I think the snakehead forum needs a few buddies... cast a big poll or sumthing, of some fish that could neighbor the snakehead forum. Come on, would be a fun interactive thing for MFK.

 

[T1KARMANN]

SO what forums are considered "NECESSARY" i mean why have 25 forums of fish when u can have 3.........Fresh/Brackish/Salt...... I think the snakehead forum needs a few buddies... cast a big poll or sumthing, of some fish that could neighbor the snakehead forum. Come on, would be a fun interactive thing for MFK.

i feel fish like stingrays aros marines and chiclids need their own forum as they are the types that people have most problems with

stuff like p.bass ,tigers ,snakeheads and pirhnas are a fairly hardy fish and not much can go wrong with keeping them apart from bad water parameters and filteration or the odd ID this fish for me post

with the rays aros chiclids and some cats more can go wrong and they are the areas that people normally need more help

 

[RobD23]

I don't, and I think that the channa section should also be removed. My reasons are stated elsewhere but basically ammount to "Where does it stop? A catagorey for everyfamily? Genus? Fish named Bob?"

I agree that it may become difficult to determine where the forums would stop, however how can you justify some fish having forums and others not ...For example, there are much more types of Puffers then there are Gars and Datnoids, yet Gars have a subforum dedicated to them. I understand what your saying Guppy, however if we are going to be diplomatic about this we should remove all subforums to make it fair. I dont' want to see that and i don't think you would like to see that either, so how about alittle compromise...Mfk should have a voting section which would consist of various changes that members feel MFK could make in order to improve the site. For example in relation to our topic, a section on which new subforums should be added to the website. If things were done in this manner I believe all would be happy.

 

[rallysman]

That caught my attention a little more Rob. Thank you for an intelligible post.
Unfortunately, attitudes have left a bad taste in my mouth.....but I can try to look beyond that.
I dont think it is a good idea to keep adding things at such a rapid pace.

We need to monitor certain thing before just slapping a subforum on because someone literally TOLD us to do so. In order to manage the site you have to do just that.....manage.
more than "I want it" needs to be considered, and I can tell you for certain that they will be.


P.S. Keep in mind that MFK is free

 

[AquataHolic420]

I agree that it may become difficult to determine where the forums would stop, however how can you justify some fish having forums and others not ...For example, there are much more types of Puffers then there are Gars and Datnoids, yet Gars have a subforum dedicated to them. I understand what your saying Guppy, however if we are going to be diplomatic about this we should remove all subforums to make it fair. I dont' want to see that and i don't think you would like to see that either, so how about alittle compromise...Mfk should have a voting section which would consist of various changes that members feel MFK could make in order to improve the site. For example in relation to our topic, a section on which new subforums should be added to the website. If things were done in this manner I believe all would be happy.

Turned my jibberish nonsense into a politically correct statement, that i thank you for..Dats RUle

 

[HarleyK]

Mfk should have a voting section which would consist of various changes that members feel MFK could make in order to improve the site.

Howdy,

I see that point. However, as Rally said, managing this site requires many considerations:

Why do we add subforums?

• the main forum gets too much traffic to stay on top of, for members as well as staff. Splitting the stream of threads into additional subforums greatly improves readability and managability
• a major new topic comes up that has so far been neglected (e.g. Monsterfishing)

Why do we not add subforums for every cool/hot fish?

• channeling too much traffic away from the main forum creates stagnation in the main as well as in the subforums. Fewer traffic makes for a lame website, and MFK is anything but lame.
• Just like you only want well defined sections in your newspaper, an overwhelming number of forums makes a website harder to surf. Dats may be hot right now, maybe wolf fish are the next cool. What then? Close the dat forum and create a wolf forum? That would upset all dat lovers. We simply cannot follow every trend.

What role do the members play?

• members' suggestions and creativity are a major contributor to a well-run site. Those approaches should be well thought-out, presented in a logic manner with respect for those who have spent more time on this site and know its dynamics. Demanding attitudes with insisting statements that do not relate to logical argumentation, however, are the wrong way
• Everything that comes up in the forums, every suggestion that is made either in a thread or by PM is discussed in detail amongst the staff. You guys insipre us. However, it takes some deeper understanding of the dynamics of a website to make decisions. That is why I critizised the junior who needs to hang around a bit longer, and telling staff what they need to do is definately a no-go.

This is by no means a complete account but just to give you an idea. Having members vote is very democratic, but this is not a democracy. Those who vote may have been here for a couple of days and may not be aware of the full extend. Those who lose by 1 vote may get upset. We love to get insipred, but you will have to trust the staff to come to a final conclusion. And even then, Neo has the final word.


My questions to all dat-forum proponents:

Does it really make a difference? What additional benefit will you have from a dat forum? Will it contain more and better information than in the Other Monsters forum? You may have to look around a bit to find dat info right now, but that's what the search option is for anyways. You use Google - why can't you use our search? Also, browsing the Other monsters forum might inspire you in diverse ways. That diversity will be abolished in a focused subforum. I actually believe you get better input from posting questions in the main forum, because you will include fishkeepers who may know the answer but would not read the subforum, perhaps they used to keep dats but aren't into them anymore.

IMO this request is not well thought out. You guys are seriously better off in a main forum.
HarleyK

 

[T1KARMANN]

i dont mind either way tiger forum or no tiger forum

but you say its not fair to give a fish thats in fashion its own forum well tigers have been popular a lot longer than the in fasion p.bass

tigers have been popular for years long before MFK even started and i cant see them dropping out of popularaty any time soon

 

[rkc772]

i love datnoids... having sub forum for it... honestly it can be good... no hard done if we had one. angel fish are great fish. i had them before and they are like discus it is soothing to look at them. datnoids have personality. anyway... i'm off the topic... if the admin thinks is great to have a sub forum.. then thank you. if not then thank you too. the mfk website helped me a lot. with regards to datnoids and some cool fishes that i had and currently have. too many sub forum makes me dizzy. the buy and sell was modified and i got confused for a second. i liked the way it was when buy and sell was combined with the community sponor seller, i can easily see all the new topics. again... going off topic... decide and take it as it is.

 

[WyldFya]

While I do think that it would be nice to see more information available, I do believe that currently we don't see the desire. It's easy to tell the staff that we need to make a section, but instead of approaching it like this, prove to us that it could help. There are no sticky's about datnoids, and I'm certain there is more than enough people qualified to write about them. Look at Del, he took the time, put in the effort, and wrote a great Silver aro thread that became a sticky. I think that trying to prove that it is needed by action rather than word will get better response. Don't spam the boards, but put up good information. I understand that it can be difficult to sort through certain sections, but "other monster fish" is simple there are relatively few posts in this section each month. Compare that to bottom dwellers, where between plecos and rays we would have 2 pages of threads with new posts every day, sometimes more. By taking away snakeheads the traffic in OMF has become even slower, and with removal of dats the only other major discussion would come from puffers really. Soon that will get removed, and OMF will have nothing in it, but the subforums.

As Harley said, the members can discuss, request, and even petition; the staff can discuss, rationalize and approve; but in the end it is still Neo's call.