Ok, thanks. The problem I see with pre-soaking is those 10mm pellets take several hours before they begin to soften up to any extent. Even with the wafers I find that breaking them up works best when initially getting a ray onto them for the first time. That's how I trained Ryan's BDxLeo when he was away over Xmas. After a few days of eating broken up pieces, I went to halfs, then whole pieces. Worked like a charm. 