The first pic looks like a Grammodes(Mini Dovii n RD as the Dovii has a bigger jaw and a more slimer face, i have seen that Doviimac pic b4 hes a monster, i will post more pics of mine in about 2-3 weeks as i will start doing 2-3 water changers a weeks
the ONLY fish my old 15in. male dovii would leaave with before I lost him as a 10in. female RD I bred them back in 2000 VERY NICE LOOKING PAIR YOU HAVE THO