discus in 90

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
im moving my snake from my 75 ill make a nice planted discus tank out of that thanks for the info
 
shekes said:
Vitaliy, you seem to always recommend more water per fish and sometimes you maybe right.

The majority of discus sites recommend 5-10g/discus.

But I observed that discus become more self-confident and eat a lot better when forced to school. There would be no issues with water quality as long as you don't overfeed.
For breeding discus you need like 40g/couple, and the wild-caught ones also need more room. But I assure you that my discus are happiest in a crowd.

When I had 16 in 40g for a couple of weeks that was too crowded. But, as I said "I keep 11 in a 70g with UGF only and change 80% of the water once a month." and that works just fine.
Yes, I do recommend more water per fish but I do not just like to pull things out of my behind.

Generally most Discus websites will stage 10 gallon per one Discus based on that rule alone 30 Discus in a 90 gallon leaves about 3 per fish, 15 Discus in a 90 gallon leaves about 6 gallon per fish. I am sorry but suggesting 30 Discus in a 90 gallon is ridiculous and would not be tolerated by any Discus keeper, school of 8-9 Discus would be great in a 90 gallon.

Sources:
Discus For Beginners (50 liter equals to about 13 gallon)
Dallas Discus Tank Setup[
Care and Breeding Basic Fact Sheet

As far as breeding Discus, over crowding is still not an excuse. If you look at most Discus breeding resources such as websites and books, it is generally suggested to get a 40-55 gallon tank and get around 6 young Discus and let them pair off. Once you establish a pair you move that pair into a tank of their own.

Sources:
The Breeding of Discus
Dont have any more at this point but I am sure Goolge will come up with something.
 
You could easily keep 10-15 discus in a 90 with no problem...just be sure to maintain your water changes...daily water changes are best, but not practical for most hobbyists...I recommend no less than 50% water change 1-2x a week. The more the better...you will notice a significant change in their appearance, appetite, health and growth the more water changes you do. For me, being a discus importer and breeder, I keep on average anywhere from 30-50 fish in a 65 gallon tank....but I am also doing 80% water changes 2x a day. I have the time to do this since I am in college and the discus thrive off of the heavy stocking and massive water changes. They eat like its their last meal every time I feed them and they eat until it looks like they've swallowed a marble! The key for any discus tank is the filtration and water changes...the more water changes you can do, the more discus you can fit in one tank.

-Ryan
 
Vitaliy said:
15-30?! Please do not stick 15 to 30 Discus in your 90 gallon, something like 10 should be the MAX.

I had 6 discus in 50 gallon bare bottum and I thought that was pushing it. 30 in a 90g :eek: that will stunt them for sure !
 
Vitaliy said:
Yes, I do recommend more water per fish but I do not just like to pull things out of my behind.

Generally most Discus websites will stage 10 gallon per one Discus based on that rule alone 30 Discus in a 90 gallon leaves about 3 per fish, 15 Discus in a 90 gallon leaves about 6 gallon per fish. I am sorry but suggesting 30 Discus in a 90 gallon is ridiculous and would not be tolerated by any Discus keeper, school of 8-9 Discus would be great in a 90 gallon.

Sources:
Discus For Beginners (50 liter equals to about 13 gallon)
Dallas Discus Tank Setup[
Care and Breeding Basic Fact Sheet

As far as breeding Discus, over crowding is still not an excuse. If you look at most Discus breeding resources such as websites and books, it is generally suggested to get a 40-55 gallon tank and get around 6 young Discus and let them pair off. Once you establish a pair you move that pair into a tank of their own.

Sources:
The Breeding of Discus
Dont have any more at this point but I am sure Goolge will come up with something.
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Sunpoe said:
I had 6 discus in 50 gallon bare bottum and I thought that was pushing it. 30 in a 90g :eek: that will stunt them for sure !

its all about the water changes....the more you're able to do, the more fish you can keep in the tank. For instance, I keep anywhere from 30-50 discus in a 65 gallon tank with no filtration at all...just heaters and airstones. BUT, I am able to do this because I do 80%+ water changes 2x a day. there are huge advantages to stocking so heavily, such as an increased growth rate and increased appetite among the fish due to competition. But, if you miss a water change, then things start to go down hill from there...mostly ammonia burns. But for the common hobbyist, a stocking density of 1 fish per 10 gallons is ideal due to lesser and infrequent water changes.

-Ryan
 
AngelicGreenTerror said:
I'd advise against the clown loaches and black ghost.

Hi AGT

Would you mind clarifying why this would be a bad idea? I thinking of changing my 55 to a planted tank. Considering some discus (3 - 5), loaches and tetras. Is there any specific reason why discus aren't compatible with loaches?

JB
 
AngelicGreenTerror said:
I'd advise against the clown loaches and black ghost.

Hey, Just curious, but why would this stress them out? Arn't they all form the same habbitat? (at leats the BGK and the discus) Yeah, I know that the Amazon river is a big place, but it is still the same water conditions and such... so why wouldn't it work?

Also, I'm probably going to get flamed for asking this... But what is everyones thoughts on incorporating 10 or so Discus in a 1200 gallon tank with some aro's, and a BGK? Would the would having a school make them feel more secure? And with the size they would not be competing for food. They would also have plenty of plants and areas to "hide."
 
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