Discussion: Fish Dieing for "No Reason"

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How many people actually believe this and what are your thoughts. You see this every day on this site.

Personally, I have never had a fish that died that didn't have a reason. And, IMO, I think this excuse is crap. There is always a reason why (especially when it happens to multiple fish) and people just don't want to own up to the fact they messed up and killed their fish.

What are you thoughts?
 
I just lost a wild caught corydoras adolfi..I blame myself completely but I acnt find out HOW it died but my fault :(
 
i do believe that fish die for a reason, however, i also believe that sometimes that reason has nothing to do with what we did as fish owners. my neice just lost all the fish in her tank recently, except for her pleco. we do not know why. no signs of any diseases, no rapid water temp changes, tested water was fine, etc. i think that sometimes, something just happens. i am sure that all of you have had or heard of this experience before. i know i have.

i wonder if there is something that can get into the water that we dont test for. any ideas anyone?
 
I don't believe fish die for "no reason." They die because of something we did or didn't do. We overfed or over stocked and amonia and nitrate levels spiked, we let the water get to hot or cold, we introduced a non comptable tank mate. We introduced a disease of some sort from another source, we neglected the fish, we don't know our water params, we didn't cycle the tank. I've had many fish die in my almost 20 years in the hobby. And I can trace every death to something I did or didn't do (except I blame my cat for getting one of them). Just because we don't know what exactly caused the death, we can be sure that we in some way contributed to it.
 
There are many things that can happen in our tanks that we do not test for. Our water params can be fine. Something as simple as washing your hands can have an adverse effect. If soap residue is left under the fingernail it can get into the water and cause a poisoning...not a poisoning we test for and would show no spikes of any kind until deaths occur. Chemicals we use to clean house can get into the water via the air a possibly could cause poisoning, again without registering on any tests normally checked. I think there are many ways that fish can die because of us that are inadvertant and have nothing to do with how we maintain our tanks. I also think that sometimes fish just die. I am not talking about a whole tank, but a single here or there. Then you could be talking about something genetic or a disease that the fish has that has nothing what so ever to do with us or the way our tanks are maintained.

I will use dogs as an example. If you have a dog and do not get it it's shots and it contracts parvo or rabies, then it is our fault the dog is sick. If you have the same dog and it is born with a hole in it's heart and has conjestive heart failure, then it isn't our fault the dog is sick. Both said dogs are probably going to die at a younger age than a normal healthy dog that received all of it's shots.

There is no way to know when we get fish if everything is perfect about them. There aren't any vet's to take them to to make sure that they aren't born with "a hole in their heart". So occasionally some just die.
 
Is old age a reason?
 
There is all ways a reason why but if we can't figure out why the most people say it died for no reason

Like with Scombs these payara often do we'll in captivity but when they reach around 12'' many people report they just find them dead one day with no clean Cause of death
 
killerfish;2937504; said:
There is all ways a reason why but if we can't figure out why the most people say it died for no reason
I agree,I have had several cases where I've taken care of my fish to best of my knowledge and things will be going fine and once in a while a dead fish will turn up for no obvious reason but there is one somewhere.
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Well...If you're tank is dying off one by one "for no reason" in a short amount of time, it doesn't make sense. But I have had an Albino Senegal that was swimming fine when I went to work, came home from work, when I left to go eat, and then when I got back it was dead:irked:
 
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