I do apologize for my absence, I have a bad habit of disappearing lol! not in my nature to do otherwise I suppose. I have all the gear except the return pump and a chiller to set my sump idea up. the only problem is Christmas and all the fun stuff I like to do during this month of snow and laughter. Ive drained my bank on tires, xmas presents for my kids and wife, and snowboarding gear. I would have had it all up and going but due to my figure being lacerated and loosing my tendon into my finger and hand, that pretty much halted my work on the sump and pretty much any use of my left hand. I assure you its not a waist to wait on me a bit longer, cause I will build it. Im currently in the process of building a water vat for my tanks. I use RO and with it -2 degrees here, its very hard to do an up to temp water change when I buy my water at my lfs in 5gal buckets. give me a month or so and this thread will be back up and running with my design. I am also just finishing college so my source of income will stop for about 3 weeks until my soon to have job pays me! ill be playing catch up on bills and my lively-hood for a bit before I continue and finish the sump build. Thank you for being patient as well as checking in to see what Ive come up with, I am sorry again for the long dely on getting back to this thread!! -Hydro