Do fish become sad when in small tanks?

[Trouser Cough]

Information and perception moves on. It wasn't that long ago that someone was babbling about the old Wardley's food jugs and how the primary content was corn and horseradish or some other terrestrial muck now viewed w/ disdain. I appreciate having access to things others have learned but I still can't imagine long term down stream members looking for legacy data. An example of what happens over time is on this board.

There's a photo section of the forum where some have posted their pic over the years. There are 531 pages in that section as of late and if you go back to page 500 you'll find a lot of broken links, pics that don't load, people that haven't posted in ages, etc. Such is the way of progress.

You'll also find that there are quite a few young people that have posted their pics in that section and in my mind that lends credibility to P phreeflow and Ogertron3000 's remarks about encouraging kids rather than a handful of old grumps chewing up whomever they can catch. I'd bet a nickel though that those same kids when they're half my age won't be looking back to see what yesterday's old farts used to think or do. At least not very often. Try the same on your end and you'll find yourself back in the era of dumping a black molly in your new marine tank to establish a cycle.

 

[RD.]

Well, this thread has certainly taken a different twist. lol

Never in human history has it been as simple as it is right now to find the answer to virtually any question, virtually instantly...but that requires some reading and some thinking, and apparently that's just too much trouble. Much better to just ask and wait for an answer.

LOL. so true. I say this often at work, to the (cough-cough) younger folks. Google it, or pick one or more of the thousands of youtube vids. When I was kid, you either learned from the older more experienced people around you, or you went to the public library in the hopes of some books on the subject. Now, like you stated, many are too lazy to even spend some time using the search function. Or they ask on several different forums, then go with what answer best suits their immediate needs. But this has been happening since the beginning of internet forums, such as MFK. You can't stop stupid.

Do people like that get angry and frustrated when the perfect morsel isn't immediately provided to them? Maybe. Will it be sufficient to eventually drive some of them to drop off the forum? Maybe. Might that be a loss to the hobby and the forum? Maybe...and maybe not...

Their loss ...........

Do the people who are trying to provide the same repetitive gruel for those baby birds get angry and frustrated with the apparent sheer utter helplessness of their charges? I think so. Will it eventually drive some of them to drop off the forum? I think so. Will that prove to be a loss to the hobby and the forum? I think so.

I seriously doubt that happens, at least on any type of regular basis - to the extent that the hobby on a whole, or this forum, suffers. As an example, every day I choose to "ignore" many topics. Not the posters, just their topics. I'm sure that yourself and many others do the same. We comment in areas that interest us, or where we might be of some assistance. If/when frustration builds, it's easy to walk away. Just hit the back button. Bye-bye. I just did that exact thing on a person wanting help with their fish, but decided to keep asking the same questions, in different threads. Not sure why anyone would leave the forum? Does it happen, probably. Does it happen often, I doubt it.

 

[RD.]

I appreciate having access to things others have learned but I still can't imagine long term down stream members looking for legacy data. An example of what happens over time is on this board.

That's funny, go check out some of the stickys on MFK, when they were initially posted, and their view counts. They aren't going down over the years, and much of the information is as relevant today, as it was 10-15 yrs ago.

Do you reckon the next generation will understand how & when species such as A. chanco's came into this hobby? Or many of the other species that were first collected and distributed amongst the masses. Most of that info will be found here on MFK. It too will be as relevant 20 yrs from now, as it was when it was first posted here years ago. First-hand experience, from the collectors in Central America, to the end users here on MFK.

 

[jjohnwm]

Hey will one of you guys quote jjohnwm? I need to know if he's posting in here.

I just noticed this ^...what do you need?

 

[Trouser Cough]

I just noticed this ^...what do you need?

Sorry bud... was just horsing around, pretending I had you on ignore and the only way I might see your posts was if someone else quoted you.

Swing and a miss here. Sorry.

 

[Trouser Cough]

That's funny, go check out some of the stickys on MFK

Maybe some of the sticky threads are different. Maybe.

Do you reckon the next generation will understand how & when species such as A. chanco's came into this hobby? Or many of the other species that were first collected and distributed amongst the masses. Most of that info will be found here on MFK. It too will be as relevant 20 yrs from now, as it was when it was first posted here years ago.

There's obscure period relevant data that's fit for long term storage but not much of what I happen to post will be relevant to future generations. When it comes to new species do you search here first? I put the info in a search engine and see what all pops up. I did that recently on Marmokreb crayfish and there were roughly 40 other links to info before a MFK reference from 2016 populated. I don't believe that what's posted here will be irrelevant to future generation aquarists but I would say that I don't post w/ that in mind.

 

[jjohnwm]

Sorry bud... was just horsing around, pretending I had you on ignore and the only way I might see your posts was if someone else quoted you.

Swing and a miss here. Sorry.

Nope, I guess I missed it...subtletly is not my strong suit...I need plain words, preferably of single syllables...

 

[Trouser Cough]

Nope, I guess I missed it...subtletly is not my strong suit...I need plain words, preferably of single syllables...

We might be related.

 

[RD.]

I did that recently on Marmokreb crayfish and there were roughly 40 other links to info before a MFK reference from 2016 populated.

Lol, I don't believe that MFK is exactly known for its expert info on crayfish. Some of the areas that I post in, and species of fish that I am interested in - for hands on experience, MFK is #1. Nothing else comes remotely close. I mean how much better can one ask for than getting firsthand experiences from the collectors themselves, with fresh specimens from the wild - and later the masses here who later went on to keep those fish in captivity. This is exactly why I joined years ago.

Crayfish? Maybe not so much.

Maybe some of the sticky threads are different. Maybe.

No maybe on some of the stickies, I've written a number of them over the years. People are still reading, still learning, and still posting regarding same.

Bloat - Causes - Cures - and BIG Myths | MonsterFishKeepers.com

The Use of Probiotics in Aquaculture | MonsterFishKeepers.com

Treating Hexamita aka Spironucleus | MonsterFishKeepers.com

Clown Loaches - Kalimantan vs Sumatra | MonsterFishKeepers.com

Most of those I think were posted 10+ yrs ago, and yet that info is as relevant today, as it was then. I wish the above info was all common knowledge amongst the masses, but unfortunately, it's not. Some of the specialty sites, such as loaches online, still have it wrong.

Stick around, you might be surprised at what a person can learn here. Maybe even from those that some days you feel like ignoring.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

For example, Would a betta eventually become sad after living in a bowl for 3 years?

Sad? Not sure .I’m sure it’s existence would be pretty **** though.