do rays get ich?
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Miles;4759240; said:Ich only effects scaled fish?
I have had puffers with Ich before, and they don't have scales.
Has anyone ever scraped tissue samples of a the rays spiracles or gills? Probably not on MFK, unless of course your one of the educated elitists.. I don't see why the Ich parasite couldn't heavily effect the softer gill tissues of rays while their exterior is not a viable hosting location for the parasite.
A recent gill scraping sample of a large deceased royal pleco (panaque family of plecos with heavily armored scales) revealed that the gill tissue was heavily infected with Ich although the fish itself showed no signs of the parasite due to the heavy armored scales. It was almost comical that this "supreme mystery death" was caused by what some might call the common cold of aquarium fish. It's nice to have someone in the local community with a scope and knowledge of fish disease.
I will use this next time I see an argument about having uv sterilisers or not....this is a good reason to have one as extra insurance.
aquaman45;4762467; said:
scales on their eyes or ich?
either way, you are probably the only one and you have a first there, as well as arguing with all the available literature on stingrays by Ross and others and so you should record it as evidence, otherwise its anecdotal and sadly therefore worthless.
David.... if you're going to post, then do so in a positive manner... your negative and be-littling people is just old. I have been a member on here since july i believe, and still have not seen/read of you actually HELPING some1... people like you is why some of the really helpful people don't post on here anymore.
Okay, guys, let's stop the negativity already. This particular forum is very notorious for this kind of unwanted attitude. Don't help if you choose to antagonize others. And report to the staff if you have problems with others instead of getting into trouble by confronting them yourselves. Thanks.
Ick!DavidW;4763222; said:scales on their eyes or ich?
either way, you are probably the only one and you have a first there, as well as arguing with all the available literature on stingrays by Ross and others and so you should record it as evidence, otherwise its anecdotal and sadly therefore worthless.
I'm no fool so please don't treat me as such!
Ajsmith235 i feel you speak for a lot of people on here....well said!
I won't carry on with this personally as i don't feel i have to justify both myself and my comments.
Regards!
I would love to see if the ray had ick on its gills with a microscope.
I had an interesting thought. Could it also be possible that rays do not get ick on their skin because they constantly release urea making them an unsuitable host?
Not sure if that could be true but just a thought
I had an interesting thought. Could it also be possible that rays do not get ick on their skin because they constantly release urea making them an unsuitable host?
Not sure if that could be true but just a thought
Guys, consider this though. Ich can attack the gill tissues, the most critical body anatomy of the fish. No fish will not contract ich. Ich is a parasite and will feed on blood. There is no reason the ich would be so selective in its hosts. Once they infiltrate the bloodstream, then they will allow their hosts to become more vulnerable to secondary infections.
Miles' post about a pleco with heavily ich-infected gills is valid. And you wonder why in some cases, ich remains undetected for quite a period of time. This is where the mistake of concocting a myth that they have a dormancy period was formed. There is no dormancy period for ich. The lack of quarantine procedures by a majority of aquarists allows the parasites to silently kill your fish.
Miles' post about a pleco with heavily ich-infected gills is valid. And you wonder why in some cases, ich remains undetected for quite a period of time. This is where the mistake of concocting a myth that they have a dormancy period was formed. There is no dormancy period for ich. The lack of quarantine procedures by a majority of aquarists allows the parasites to silently kill your fish.
