DO YOU BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION?

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you believe in evolution of freshwater stingrays?

  • i believe in evolution

    Votes: 37 72.5%
  • i do NOT believe in evolution

    Votes: 14 27.5%

  • Total voters
    51
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Ullopincrate;2884297; said:
You state this as fact. Maybe we won't be able to unveil the links we seek with it. There is liable to be another system below DNA. The atom was once thought to be the smallest particle and people fought and died for this argument but then....... we open it up and all kinds of stuff came out. I'd like to live long enough to see this unfurl but like someone said we are just a spec on the timeline. We won't be around long enough for the answer. We might figure out the ray question in our time though.;)

Agreed, I am just trying to address the act of one believing in creationism and how anthropocentric it is.
 
I vote that rays adapted to fresh (or call it micro-evolution since it is still a ray and not something else)

Chimps have 2 more chromosomes than me... does that mean they are more evolved and possibly superior? Maybe they are just keeping quiet and actually know the truth. Evolution is a religion with faith based beliefs, founders, and a central god (chance).
 
Ullopincrate;2884320; said:
I think all ideas need to be considered. I like to talk about it. No one can prove their side. It's all interesting though.
That's false. Evolution can and has been proven over and over and over and over. Creationism on the other hand was endorsed by George Walker Bush.:irked:
 
NilePufferFanatic;2884375; said:
I vote that rays adapted to fresh (or call it micro-evolution since it is still a ray and not something else)

Chimps have 2 more chromosomes than me... does that mean they are more evolved and possibly superior? Maybe they are just keeping quiet and actually know the truth. Evolution is a religion with faith based beliefs, founders, and a central god (chance).

Well stated.

I still think the dolphins are trying to take over the world
 
SovietFireExtinguisher;2884379; said:
That's false. Evolution can and has been proven over and over and over and over. Creationism on the other hand was endorsed by George Walker Bush.:irked:

Sorry bro but scientifically speaking if it has been proven it wouldn't be called a theory. It would be called a law.
 
Ullopincrate;2884307; said:
Actually you should read up more on your "facts". We have found fossilized marine life on some of the highest peaks in the world. BTW a flood doesn't necessarily have to do with a deity. We are in global warming now, so I'm told and if all the icebergs melt ??? So you aren't really laying anything to rest.

Marine fossils are found in the mountains due to geologic uplift, not because of "the deluge". If all the water on Earth were converted to liquid it would raise sea levels around 300' - hardly comes close to "the highest peaks in the world"...
 
Ullopincrate;2884307; said:
Actually you should read up more on your "facts". We have found fossilized marine life on some of the highest peaks in the world. BTW a flood doesn't necessarily have to do with a deity. We are in global warming now, so I'm told and if all the icebergs melt ??? So you aren't really laying anything to rest.

ha ha, i totally agree! :naughty:

Ullopincrate;2884332; said:
That's not exactly debate. We can all do without this type of post.

agreed!

SovietFireExtinguisher;2884379; said:
That's false. Evolution can and has been proven over and over and over and over. Creationism on the other hand was endorsed by George Walker Bush.:irked:


where is the proof, even the most pronoun scientists that sudy this say "one must presume" that is not fact that is a total guess...not fact.
 
NilePufferFanatic;2884375; said:
I vote that rays adapted to fresh (or call it micro-evolution since it is still a ray and not something else)

Chimps have 2 more chromosomes than me... does that mean they are more evolved and possibly superior? Maybe they are just keeping quiet and actually know the truth. Evolution is a religion with faith based beliefs, founders, and a central god (chance).

There is DNA evidence that in Humans those two extra chromosomes flipped over and fused. This is all readily on the Internet for you googling pleasure. Ie. there is your so called missing link. Unless what you are looking for is an upright walking super hairy ape/human type guy that makes grunting ape sounds. He was in my grade 8 gym class. His name was Peter.:grinno:
 
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