Do you buy your clothes at Wal Mart?

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so Where else do you go? The mall? Those stores don't treat their employees that great either. BBB is not a place I like to support much and target and other companies get their products from the same places. It might be better quality but it's not all made here, most made in china, Indonesia, India, Chile, Vietnam or other countries. Your expensive mall clothes come from those countries too. Where they have lax environmental laws, horrible labor/working conditions with no benefits (if we care about the people at walmart then why not these people too?), etc. In the end if its not here, you will prob. end up supporting it with your dollars when buying from someone else. There is a reason so many companies move their business or the labor portions/headquarters out of the U.S., they get away with a lot more and have limited to no regulations. Its just a giant circle. I watched a documentary on a girl who worked in a factory in China, it was awful, her life it was like she was owned not even a worker. The entire circle is terrible, but developed countries want their products and they want it cheap and thus the vicious cycle is created. Walmart is huge so you are going to hear about it, but other companies are no better so unless you stop spending your money at all of these kinds of companies then I guess I just don't see the point.

Edit: It was to long so I just cut out the last half of what I was going to say...

Yup, that's what I mentioned earlier. Walmart gets the notoriety only because they're so big. There's plenty of smaller business that treat their employees just as bad if not worse. I laugh when people shop at Target and not Walmart because of the 'made in China' thing. Do you realize where your crap from Target comes from? It sure as hell isn't made in the US of A.
 
what people don't understand is China is one of Americas trade partner..... if you go to China they have tons of made in the usa products... they actually love things made in the usa.. its the same in China as it is the USA (the made in …) thing.
 
How does the fact that, I'm sure, that there are small employers that cheat, abuse and discriminate against their employees...somehow justify a huge company like Wal-Mart doing it?

How many class action lawsuits have Target and Costco employees filed against them? Compared to Wal-Mart?

That stuff's made overseas is a fact of life. That companies treat their employees poorly doesn't have to be.

Like I posted before, there are lots of places to buy stuff. I've chosen not to shop at Wal-Mart for years...

Matt

Yup, that's what I mentioned earlier. Walmart gets the notoriety only because they're so big. There's plenty of smaller business that treat their employees just as bad if not worse. I laugh when people shop at Target and not Walmart because of the 'made in China' thing. Do you realize where your crap from Target comes from? It sure as hell isn't made in the US of A.
 
How does the fact that, I'm sure, that there are small employers that cheat, abuse and discriminate against their employees...somehow justify a huge company like Wal-Mart doing it?

Not trying to justify. Just pointing out the hypocrisies in the logic of the morality cheerleaders. It would be like like standing on a street corner holding a sign that says Meat is Murder while wearing a fur coat :)
 
it doesnt matter how employees are treated, as long as the customers win.
 
who buys their clothes at target???????????? like that's just as low quality.

it's not where walmart gets it's stuff from that struck a chord with me. it was more how they openly treated their employees (there's film of them openly talking down about people in management settings and not a job performance type discussion) especially women, how they treated environmental concerns until media exposed it, how they made commercial implying they were looking for stuff made in the usa and how it means something (lmao, stfu with that), how people wanting a union were physically threaten, how people sent out to report on their factories weren't told to lie from the get go...they waited for them to tell the truth then fired them after they'd work their way up via promotions.

Anyways, like i said...it ALMOST makes me want...ALMOST. im not quite there yet but as for the original topic, hell no i ain't buying clothes there. i want to see a wal mart fashion show where someone can show me they actually look good on real people.
 
i buy dickies from the chinese lady down the street, everything else usualy bass pro, cabellas, or rei clearance rack. oooh 1 time i went to the salvation army cause i heard they had camo shorts. they didnt. but i did walk out with a 29 gallon tank, filter, heater and gravel for 10 bucks =)
 
The extra cost from the site I linked to has to do with their tailoring, as well. ;) Straight seams are much less expensive to sew, regardless of who is doing it. Ignoring any nationalism or jingoism, and focusing on local economy, there are plenty more providers here http://www.americansworking.com/clothing.html and http://www.allusaclothing.com/default.asp at a pricepoint below $100 a pop.

I am not sure how it is hypocrisy if, as soon as someone is made aware of the treatment of employees by a specific company, they stop patronizing them. I would not label someone a hypocrite if they are just ignorant of the conditions. There's plenty other things they can be called instead. ;)
 
My point is just simply that walmart is more noticed for it and of course are going to be on a larger scale when it comes to this kind of stuff, but there are so many other companies that are equally as bad not just in treating their employees but with environmental issues to. Walmart is just so huge of course there is going to be more of everything with them and more exposure. I just think if you are going to research and find out this information and boycott them for the treatment of employees, the environment or whatever else than I would think one would want to research other companies to be more informed of where they are shopping and who they are buying from, instead of just focusing on one place. I just personally don't see the point if you are just going to focus on one company (I am not saying its wrong or right, just how I personally feel). I mentioned products being made in china and the treatment of their workers because if someone is concerned with how companies treat employees, why not be concerned with how the people are being treated who make these products too. I brought up the documentary of the Chinese factory worker b/c its a good example of the horrible working conditions they live with. If you buy products made there you are probably supporting bad working conditions etc. I was just making the point that why should we only care about walmart's employees or the ones here in the USA, why not care about the ones from other companies as well and the ones that make the products we are buying as well. Its like shopping at walmart is bad b/c of there treatment of employees, the environment, etc. but then someone turns around a shops at another company who also has these issues, its just not as publicly known and one doesn't bother to research where they are shopping and end supporting the same conditions at some other place but doesn't shop at walmart because of these same reason, then what was the point? If walmart is more exposed, does these things worse or on a large scale, it still doesn't make it ok for other companies to do it.


As for my personal clothes shopping, I shop where I find thing I like and on a sales rack and usually $10 and under at random places. I am not that up on fashion, so I don't care to spend more than $10 on clothes or a clothing item.
 
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