Does my 29g tank have neon tetra disease?

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Of the people that breed locally, do you know if they alter water parameters to match natural preferred parameters neons evolved to live in?
If the breeder alters (for example) his or her pH to 7 or below, and you drop them quickly into pH 7.5 or 8, this could cause enough stress to suppress immunity.
The difference between a pH of 8 and 7, is 8 is 8 is 10 times less acidic
Where a quick drip acclimation may be fine for matching temps, it may not be sufficient for matching chemical parameters.
One of the reasons I Qt for at least 3 months, is during that time in QT, I gradually add a little water every day from the main tank, o acclimate new fish to pH, water hardness, and the especially the species of bacteria the new fish will experience in the main tank.
By the time they enter the main tank, the QT tank water is fully turned over to match.

This may be a little late for you now, but to avoid the stress you are going thru, in the future, an actual proper QT time may be worth considering.
I suspect the new neons would still have died, but not had a chance to infect your other fish
Sometimes all it takes is one parameter to be off, and an epidemic begins.

I know I might seem a bit too direct, or harsh while you're watching your fish die, but I don't believe coddling, or beating around the bush does any good.
 
Of the people that breed locally, do you know if they alter water parameters to match natural preferred parameters neons evolved to live in?
If the breeder alters (for example) his or her pH to 7 or below, and you drop them quickly into pH 7.5 or 8, this could cause enough stress to suppress immunity.
The difference between a pH of 8 and 7, is 8 is 8 is 10 times less acidic
Where a quick drip acclimation may be fine for matching temps, it may not be sufficient for matching chemical parameters.
One of the reasons I Qt for at least 3 months, is during that time in QT, I gradually add a little water every day from the main tank, o acclimate new fish to pH, water hardness, and the especially the species of bacteria the new fish will experience in the main tank.
By the time they enter the main tank, the QT tank water is fully turned over to match.

This may be a little late for you now, but to avoid the stress you are going thru, in the future, an actual proper QT time may be worth considering.
I suspect the new neons would still have died, but not had a chance to infect your other fish
Sometimes all it takes is one parameter to be off, and an epidemic begins.

I know I might seem a bit too direct, or harsh while you're watching your fish die, but I don't believe coddling, or beating around the bush does any good.

From what I was told by the worker (who is very knowledgeable and I trust) the fish are bred in about 7.8 ph which is what I assume mine is, but it's hard to tell with the color. And the ph at the local Petco is 7.8 as well

Either way I doubt that's the problem because my other tetras were already used to the ph for about 2 months, but they still died.
 
Of the people that breed locally, do you know if they alter water parameters to match natural preferred parameters neons evolved to live in?
If the breeder alters (for example) his or her pH to 7 or below, and you drop them quickly into pH 7.5 or 8, this could cause enough stress to suppress immunity.
The difference between a pH of 8 and 7, is 8 is 8 is 10 times less acidic
Where a quick drip acclimation may be fine for matching temps, it may not be sufficient for matching chemical parameters.
One of the reasons I Qt for at least 3 months, is during that time in QT, I gradually add a little water every day from the main tank, o acclimate new fish to pH, water hardness, and the especially the species of bacteria the new fish will experience in the main tank.
By the time they enter the main tank, the QT tank water is fully turned over to match.

This may be a little late for you now, but to avoid the stress you are going thru, in the future, an actual proper QT time may be worth considering.
I suspect the new neons would still have died, but not had a chance to infect your other fish
Sometimes all it takes is one parameter to be off, and an epidemic begins.

I know I might seem a bit too direct, or harsh while you're watching your fish die, but I don't believe coddling, or beating around the bush does any good.

Don't worry. I understand you are trying to help, and you didn't come across as harsh to me. Your just being honest
 
Update:
Last night there were 4 black neons remaining. And I'm pleased to announce that they have survived the night! Which is really good considering how fast they were dying off before. When number 5 was starting to look sick I immediately separated him from the others before he died (the black neons are currently in a quarantine 10g tank)

The other fish from the 29 are still good. No signs of stress or anything that indicates they are sick.
 
Update:
Last night there were 4 black neons remaining. And I'm pleased to announce that they have survived the night! Which is really good considering how fast they were dying off before. When number 5 was starting to look sick I immediately separated him from the others before he died (the black neons are currently in a quarantine 10g tank)

The other fish from the 29 are still good. No signs of stress or anything that indicates they are sick.
Great update
 
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Just curious. When would I start thinking about adding new fish to the 29g. So far the gourami, platys, ect are doing very well. In fact, the platys are doing better then they have before. So the disease hasn't done any damage to the other fish, and the remaining black neons (2) are going to be in quarantine indefinitely

How long will it be until I'm able to add some kind of new fish to the 29g. I will not be adding neon tetras any time soon. Tank parameters are great, and I just did another big water change
 
I'm planning on some type of barb species to replace the neon tetras. But should I wait a little longer to see if the it's safe?
 
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