Does this little guy looks more like a Midas or a Red Devil to you guys?

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Roger Mcfish said:
Kind of conflicting as well when the title states what do I have versus I'm lucky to have a pure one. Which is it? Lol
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You do realise that people can have a pure cichlid species, but can't exactly pinpoint what it is because there could be 1-2 or 3 more species that look extremely similar to their cichlid, right? Whether they know what it is or not doesn't make it any less pure. If someone bought a loisellei and thought it was a jag or a dovii, and asked people what exactly is it? Will that make that loisellei any less pure? At the end of the day, it'll still be a loisellei even if they know what it is or not. Another example is a normal blue acara and a rivulatus when they were juveniles. If someone bought a lot of rivulatus and blue acara when they were juveniles and in the same tank. And that person couldn't tell the difference when they grow up a bit cuz the twos look similar, and when they ask someone if which one is which. Will that make those regular blue acara no longer pure? Will that make the rivulatus any less of a rivulatus? Same with my case, that's all it is.
 
HUKIT said:
This statement is a perfect example of why there are so few pure fish currently…
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Dude, I bought from the most reliable, most well-known and most credible cichlid shop in the whole Thailand that exports their fish from a reliable cichlid farm overseas. His shop has many branches in ASEAN. As far as I know, one in Thailand, one in Philippines and one in Indonesia. If this shop isn't believable enough, I don't know what is. Do I need to fly to Central America to fish Red Devil and Midas myself to make sure it's pure?
 
Fanatic_Fish_Lunatic said:
You do realise that people can have a pure cichlid species, but can't exactly pinpoint what it is because there could be 1-2 or 3 more species that look extremely similar to their cichlid, right? Whether they know what it is or not doesn't make it any less pure. If someone bought a loisellei and thought it was a jag or a dovii, and asked people what exactly is it? Will that make that loisellei any less pure? At the end of the day, it'll still be a loisellei even if they know what it is or not. Another example is a normal blue acara and a rivulatus when they were juveniles. If someone bought a lot of rivulatus and blue acara when they were juveniles and in the same tank. And that person couldn't tell the difference when they grow up a bit cuz the twos look similar, and when they ask someone if which one is which. Will that make those regular blue acara no longer pure? Will that make the rivulatus any less of a rivulatus? Same with my case, that's all it is.
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A jag, dovii, multifaciatus formally fredrichstalli, fredrichstalli formally loiselli are easily ID'ed. Totally different when red devils and Midas have been used to breed with each other for a very long time.
Blue acara and green terror are also very distinct from each other as I've owned both. Just sound a like the people you know have no clue on what's going, sorry but not sorry that they can't I'd a fish correctly.

You say you have a pure species but you asked in your title what do you have. Ask whatever fish store you got it from for background info such as lineage and you have wild caught, f1 or something amongst those lines!
 
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Fanatic_Fish_Lunatic said:
Dude, I bought from the most reliable, most well-known and most credible cichlid shop in the whole Thailand that exports their fish from a reliable cichlid farm overseas. His shop has many branches in ASEAN. As far as I know, one in Thailand, one in Philippines and one in Indonesia. If this shop isn't believable enough, I don't know what is. Do I need to fly to Central America to fish Red Devil and Midas myself to make sure it's pure?
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I would like to look up this fish store you mention online to verify.

If he's the most reliable, then he should be able to tell you exact scientific name, catch location and if it's wild caught or f1!

Or else you wouldn't be asking what you got versus I have a pure bred.
 
For example, can't tell me that no one knows the difference. First picture is multifaciatus, second is fredrichstalli.
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Fanatic_Fish_Lunatic said:
No, it's because I bought it, both Midas and Red Devil, lots of them. Around 4 Midas and 4 Red Devil at the same time since they were 1.5-2 inches, but months had passed, and I've lost the chat history with the owner of the cichlids shop that I've bought them from. That's why I don't know if this one was a Midas or a Red Devil, since it could be either of them. If it was 1 Red Devil and 1 Midas that I bought, I'd be able to tell which is which, but I bought 4 each, total 8 of them. That's why I wasn't sure if this one was a Midas or a Red Devil.
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Annnnnd here is the reply!!!! Regardless of size, you mixed two different species regardless of what they are!

That's the problem with the hobby today!!!!!
 
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Ive collected many times to get the real deal and caught fish i couldnt 100% identify.. as for lfs/importers/hobbyists/ suppliers ive gotten wrong fish/misidentified fish many many times….
 
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