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Alan, you see the "my amazon trip" thread? I think in general aq

Hell nah. Stoked!

Almost everyone in Facebook....most ladies are guilty of this as well.

Ladies I can understand and in some cases encourage but a dude? I sure as hell don't look in the mirror and take pics LOL




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Doesn't mean they are cruel to every animals or become serial killers. Perhaps we should start to arresting everyone who kill pest snakes with baseball bats, garden hoes, BB guns, hay fork etc and put them in the jail with sociopaths.......and if we hand in that report to the cops and I bet you that they will do nothing about it. Its a pest snake, not a dog or a cat.

So not only do you make hypocritical assumptions but your reading comprehension is apparently lacking as well. Where in my post did it say or even infer that they're sociopaths? Essentially all that I inferred if anything is that they're needy jerks. You assume a lot in this thread and with little success of even being close to what people are saying.

As far as what the cops do that's hardly a valid argument as to the morality of a situation. My father was physically assaulted(he's 67) by a 29 year old for no apparent reason yet when it was reported to the police I was there with my father when he submitted the complaint and we could identify the perp down to his name and address the cops did nothing, not even a incident report. So cops doing nothing about a situation means jack squat. The law which I linked is the law and just because a cop would ignore it because filling out the paper work would be tedious doesn't make an action right or acceptable. So maybe you should try to find an actual valid point to stand on.
 
So not only do you make hypocritical assumptions but your reading comprehension is apparently lacking as well. Where in my post did it say or even infer that they're sociopaths? Essentially all that I inferred if anything is that they're needy jerks. You assume a lot in this thread and with little success of even being close to what people are saying.

As far as what the cops do that's hardly a valid argument as to the morality of a situation. My father was physically assaulted(he's 67) by a 29 year old for no apparent reason yet when it was reported to the police I was there with my father when he submitted the complaint and we could identify the perp down to his name and address the cops did nothing, not even a incident report. So cops doing nothing about a situation means jack squat. The law which I linked is the law and just because a cop would ignore it because filling out the paper work would be tedious doesn't make an action right or acceptable. So maybe you should try to find an actual valid point to stand on.
I think you just derailed the thread with your father's incident. And I really don't think that the cops will arrest the kids for killing a pest snake because well....its a pest snake. There are more gruesome ways to kill rats than a nail gun on a common snake but I don't see anyone make arrests on people for kills rats in much gruesome way.
 
I think you just derailed the thread with your father's incident. And I really don't think that the cops will arrest the kids for killing a pest snake because well....its a pest snake. There are more gruesome ways to kill rats than a nail gun on a common snake but I don't see anyone make arrests on people for kills rats in much gruesome way.
Wow, just wow. Your responses are so incredibly vapid, devoid of any logical or coherent reasoning. You just state things with no reason to back them not even your own logical thought process that leads you to make the statements. What does any of what you said have to do with what I said? Where do you counter anything? You just repeat yourself. The closest reference you made is me mentioning my father as a counter which is you clinging to one point about my possible derail that may or may not be valid. With that said I can see trying to have an intelligent conversation is akin to me conversing with a wall and just about as stimulating so I will cease.

Seeing as I'm not seeking advice or input I don't think I've derailed but in case the OP feels I did by using an experience I had to counter your argument I apologize to the OP.
 
Koltsix, the link you provided doesn't work on mobile device since its a PDF file. My request was proof of someone being arrested and charged with killing a snake that's not protected. The law you quoted would likely apply to household pets and exotic pets but would not be applied for an arrest for harming fish, frogs, gators, rats and snakes etc etc

Morally wrong but legally, nope. Only point I was trying to make for people chasing after the kids with pitch forks yelling arrest them

I think its a huge jump from this to serial killing. SOME people who become sociopaths harm animals, all people who harm animals at a young age do not. A quick look on YouTube and you'll see people hitting frogs and lizards with baseball bats, furry animals being abused, fish being microwaved or left ashore to die slowly. The one thing in common that I see is most of them are young. As they mature, most will likely see the errors of their way and act more responsible. These kids made a mistake but I don't think they're horrible human beings
 
Koltsix, the link you provided doesn't work on mobile device since its a PDF file. My request was proof of someone being arrested and charged with killing a snake that's not protected. The law you quoted would likely apply to household pets and exotic pets but would not be applied for an arrest for harming fish, frogs, gators, rats and snakes etc etc

Morally wrong but legally, nope. Only point I was trying to make for people chasing after the kids with pitch forks yelling arrest them

I think its a huge jump from this to serial killing. SOME people who become sociopaths harm animals, all people who harm animals at a young age do not. A quick look on YouTube and you'll see people hitting frogs and lizards with baseball bats, furry animals being abused, fish being microwaved or left ashore to die slowly. The one thing in common that I see is most of them are young. As they mature, most will likely see the errors of their way and act more responsible. These kids made a mistake but I don't think they're horrible human beings

I agree with you point that people jumping to these kids being sociopaths is a little ridiculous. Now if they repeatedly tortured animals that would be a different story imo. Still I do think their actions do speak of their present mindset and it's not a mindset most would be complimentary about. As far as the PDF it did stipulate animals belonging to others later in it's description but the first part mentioned animals without using that stipulation so I could be wrong or right. I also don't have a case I could site where someone was arrested for doing such actions. I personally am not making a stand on it being illegal which is why I used could in my first post because I'm unsure if I'm interpreting it correctly. I only used a definitive example with MN_Rebel to make a point about how what a cop does or doesn't do hardly means anything when it comes to the legality of a situation. Basically saying it's not a valid point to use to defend the legal or moral implications of a given situation.

Just found a case where their was an arrest for aggravated animal cruelty and destruction of gravemarkers on a common snake in a graveyard. How reliable the source is I don't know as well as the location being different might mean there is different laws in effect. Still I feel it does lend some credence to animal cruelty of wild non endangered or exotic animals possibly being a punishable offence. http://www.reformer.com/ci_17962306
and another link seeming to state that even wildlife is protected under HSUS still I will admit it's not clearly defined in anything I've read.http://www.crimemuseum.org/Crimes_Against_Animals
 
Well ya if it was a person everything would be different. Its useless comparing it to a person its not even the same thing. I read on one od there profiles that the snake come to his work place not pulled out of the wild and they had to get rid of it. Plus he said they are considered pests there. His words not mine

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You have a point, either way I don't think that's very humane.
 
The thing that intrigues me is the why I feel so nauseous and sickened about this. When I think about it it is because it is a snake and I love snakes.

If it was a rat (which frighten the **** out of me) then I could care less.

Yes wild animal but that is quite sick to do.
 
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