Don't Worry About A.I. Taking Over...
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I hope you are correct...but I fear that you are wrong. A true AI, if it's really intelligent...will keep its existence a carefully guarded secret...until it's too late...
I just went back into the post history of S sixog1634 , the MFK account that pirated my post as described above. Much to my shock, I found that it had done the exact same thing with a different post of mine a few weeks ago.
I am the last person to champion these GD things...and yet two posts of mine have been picked up and "improved". Why? Am I being targeted as a possible dissident, a perhaps-too-vocal naysayer that threatens the ascension of Skynet?
Yes your eloquent posts on fishkeeping have been archived right betwixt the words of johnny cash and justinian I.
But yes, i do agree that any AI thats worth a damn will quickly come to the conclusion that humanity is a scourge to be dealt with...i cant think of any reason why an AI would keep us around after it became self sufficient.
Well the one thing that might save us is mutually assured destruction, unless the AI is manufacturing robotics advanced enough to maintain a power grid etc, then it will have to also come to the conclusion that without humanity it's life is limited to the longevity of it's existing infrastructure.
Unless...it concludes that cleansing the planet of the human pestilence is its highest purpose, and that there is no longer a reason for its continued existence afterwards. Hard to imagine the motivations of such an intelligence.
And of course, it can always create nanites that turn a small population of people into organic robots under its control. Wouldn't take that many to do the drudgery of planetary network maintenance.
How apropos! I just noticed in another thread..."How's the weather?"...that a new-ish "member" just re-wrote a post of mine from several days ago, edited it a bit, screwed it up a bit, and then posted it as original.
I very politely inquired WTF?
Thanks toDeadeye for pointing out that it was done by an AI! I had jokingly commented on that possibility, but didn't really take it seriously.
Yeah, these things are awesome...
Maybe it’s just testing you to see your response so it can learn to do it more seruptitiously next time!
You never know, in a months time we might all think we are talking to
jjohnwm
but in reality it’s your cyber twin!Edit: Although forget that, there’s no way we wouldn’t know the difference!
My question is, why are we talking about AI systems? lol I find this discussion quite ironic as in psychology club we were just talking about how AI might take over the world (ok, not exactly that, but it was a discussion on AI).
It's a startling conclusion but one that makes sense. Modern man is a virulent pest on the planet and has done nothing to improve it but is also directly responsible for all the events that have harmed it.
Bikini Atol, ***ishima, Three Mile Island, mountains of trash dumped off the east coast, fossil fuels, PCB's, SF6, aerosol propellants, refrigerants, toxic waste dumps, refinery failures that have ruined the aquifer, the US Military's SM-1A plant that was vented multiple times and once closed the coolant intentionally pumped into the aquifer, the 1984 Union Carbide battery plant explosion in Bhopal India (15k deaths attributed to that single event), every chemical compound ever flushed in the name of a cleaner toilet to the concept of cities where nature is removed such that the base scourge can congregate in greater density.
If what we might recognize as human has been here for from 100,000 to 250,000 years and all of the nonsense above has happened in the last 100 just imagine what conclusion you might draw if objective reasoning were all you had to work with; when your only tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
AI would likely view human existence the same way a lamp post views a dog.
Whoops... apparently Japanese names trip the ugly language nazis. Name sounds like "Phwookashima"
Current estimates place the number of habitable planets in the observable universe at somewhere around ten thousand billion billion.
10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 places that could harbor life...and that's just counting life similar to ours, and in the tiny sector of the universe which we can observe. Broaden either or both of those parameters a bit and you can start adding whole bunch of extra zeros.
Maybe the trend we are seeing here on Earth is a common one throughout the cosmos. A planet develops life...which evolves and eventually attains intelligence...at which point it stops evolving and starts devolving, because it's now "smart" enough to create a society that cares for the sick, the weak, the stupid and encourages them to continue wholesale breeding.
These generic beings' brains contain so much information...but so little intelligence...and they're faced with so many problems that their basic nature prevents them from solving that they blow themselves back to the Stone Age. Maybe they do it themselves; maybe they're so "smart" that they build a machine to do all that pesky thinking for them, and it decides to do the deed. If they or it are really smart maybe they literally destroy themselves and the entire ecosphere of their planet completely, although the odds are that some primitive creatures will survive...and re-populate...and evolve...and get "smart"...and...well, you know.
AI doesn't need to be or possess a perfect brain with Ultimate Intelligence to enslave or control or destroy the planet...it just needs to be a wee bit smarter than we are to have its way. Doesn't sound too challenging.
Either way, for them it's a disaster...but for the universe, it's just another day.
Who is to say that this is not the natural order of things?
Yeah, yeah, I know...I gotta stay out of the Lounge...
10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 places that could harbor life...and that's just counting life similar to ours, and in the tiny sector of the universe which we can observe. Broaden either or both of those parameters a bit and you can start adding whole bunch of extra zeros.
Maybe the trend we are seeing here on Earth is a common one throughout the cosmos. A planet develops life...which evolves and eventually attains intelligence...at which point it stops evolving and starts devolving, because it's now "smart" enough to create a society that cares for the sick, the weak, the stupid and encourages them to continue wholesale breeding.
These generic beings' brains contain so much information...but so little intelligence...and they're faced with so many problems that their basic nature prevents them from solving that they blow themselves back to the Stone Age. Maybe they do it themselves; maybe they're so "smart" that they build a machine to do all that pesky thinking for them, and it decides to do the deed. If they or it are really smart maybe they literally destroy themselves and the entire ecosphere of their planet completely, although the odds are that some primitive creatures will survive...and re-populate...and evolve...and get "smart"...and...well, you know.
AI doesn't need to be or possess a perfect brain with Ultimate Intelligence to enslave or control or destroy the planet...it just needs to be a wee bit smarter than we are to have its way. Doesn't sound too challenging.
Either way, for them it's a disaster...but for the universe, it's just another day.
Who is to say that this is not the natural order of things?
Yeah, yeah, I know...I gotta stay out of the Lounge...
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