Don't you love roadblocks in the hobby?
- Thread starter ryansmith83
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Sorry to hear Ryan. I would be at the door step of the city if I were having to put fish down. I am a PITA. Maybe go down to the health dept. with pix of your tanks and show them the pride you take in your hobby and get them onboard with you. Im sure somebody down there will sympathize with you and give you more conclusive answers. Its easy to blow somebody off on the phone but when you see the pain and turmoil in there eyes its another story. Good luck man!
Sorry to hear, Ryan!
I'd also go for a carbon filter.
Maybe an opportunity to try out some hardy fish you haven't kept before
Matt
I'd also go for a carbon filter.
Maybe an opportunity to try out some hardy fish you haven't kept before
Matt
As others have said, your municipal water company does have to provide reports and averages and such, and will tell you if the water is generally safe to drink. And you don't trust them.
I would search for a well service company in your area and ask them to point you to a lab. You can have your water tested for everything. It may prove to be something you cannot correct for, but you will at least have a certified report in hand if you do decide to pursue this further with your local water people. A family member on a well just paid for one of these tests, think it cost him about 60 dollars, but I am in California, and costs may not be the same for you.
I would search for a well service company in your area and ask them to point you to a lab. You can have your water tested for everything. It may prove to be something you cannot correct for, but you will at least have a certified report in hand if you do decide to pursue this further with your local water people. A family member on a well just paid for one of these tests, think it cost him about 60 dollars, but I am in California, and costs may not be the same for you.
I have already had a couple pms with Ryan, and have read his cities water quality report.
Water depts and fish keepers are actually at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Water depts are charged with providing safe drinking water people, and this process can sometimes kill our fish, and take steps on our own. This may mean running make up water thru carbon, adding sodium or calcium thiosulfate to neutralize chlorine, or cascading water to sumps first, or over rocks or filters to prevent embolism.
Especially at this time of year, organics can surge, and more disinfectant is required, we as fishkeepers need to be aware of this, and add neutralizer as needed. When I worked at a water plant, chlorine dose sometimes doubled to meet demand.
Sometimes water under pressure in pipes can hold supersaturated gases, and cause gas bubble embolism in our fish, that can kill.
I always add water to my sumps, instead of directly to my tanks from my Python to prevent this.
If there is a main break, extra disinfectant is needed to prevent E coli infection in people, this extra chloramine or chlorine can also obviously be lethal to fish.
When the question is saving 1 million people from getting sick, or killing some fish, fish will always lose, fish keepers must always keep this in mind, and realize in the large scheme of things water depts are only responsible to peoples health.
Water depts and fish keepers are actually at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Water depts are charged with providing safe drinking water people, and this process can sometimes kill our fish, and take steps on our own. This may mean running make up water thru carbon, adding sodium or calcium thiosulfate to neutralize chlorine, or cascading water to sumps first, or over rocks or filters to prevent embolism.
Especially at this time of year, organics can surge, and more disinfectant is required, we as fishkeepers need to be aware of this, and add neutralizer as needed. When I worked at a water plant, chlorine dose sometimes doubled to meet demand.
Sometimes water under pressure in pipes can hold supersaturated gases, and cause gas bubble embolism in our fish, that can kill.
I always add water to my sumps, instead of directly to my tanks from my Python to prevent this.
If there is a main break, extra disinfectant is needed to prevent E coli infection in people, this extra chloramine or chlorine can also obviously be lethal to fish.
When the question is saving 1 million people from getting sick, or killing some fish, fish will always lose, fish keepers must always keep this in mind, and realize in the large scheme of things water depts are only responsible to peoples health.
Oh yeah, now I remember Who the water guy was. LOL.
Nevertheless, it's not unreasonable for fish keepers to get answers (when they ask) about what's being changed in their water supply, so that they can implement additional steps for their fish.
Many of the these dose changes occur as incoming water changes, and can happen moment to moment, and can happen many times in a day. Hospitals and health facilities are on priority notification, but with the way governments are being required to cut back on qualified people, phone calls about non essential matters that interrupt critical action can be harmful to the health of the population.
Because I was the only fish keeper where I worked, I was funneled all fish calls, I never took a call, or went to take a sample, where it wasn't a fish keeper error. 98% of the time it was new tank syndrome, and the tax payer ended up paying the bill for man hours and hundreds $ in lab tests that could have been avoided. And even after test results were verified, the customers didn't believe them.
All an aquarist has to do, is google their cities EPA required water quality report, and the answers are all there. Dosage of chlorine/chloramine, nitrate levels, pH, etc.
I read Ryan's, and one from England today in a matter of minutes.
Because I was the only fish keeper where I worked, I was funneled all fish calls, I never took a call, or went to take a sample, where it wasn't a fish keeper error. 98% of the time it was new tank syndrome, and the tax payer ended up paying the bill for man hours and hundreds $ in lab tests that could have been avoided. And even after test results were verified, the customers didn't believe them.
All an aquarist has to do, is google their cities EPA required water quality report, and the answers are all there. Dosage of chlorine/chloramine, nitrate levels, pH, etc.
I read Ryan's, and one from England today in a matter of minutes.
Much of this info should be in a sticky, due to the frequency of these questions.
but why is ryan's water all discolored, and for sooo long? it doesn't sound like standard chem treatment.
color in it's self doesn't mean alot in drinking water unless there is also a taste or odor problem to go with it. also if your water smells of chlorine the residual is actually very low not high as is commonly thought.
