PhullTank57......... How long have you had your Giant Raphael? I've had mine about a year. Are they slow growers? Mine hasn't grown much that I've noticed. I had to remove it from the 150 to the 40 cause my old cichlids were beating him up, hope to get him back in there in the next couple of weeks.I can''t wait for him to get his adult coloring.. They're beautiful cats when mature. 