Dovii protrusion

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I'm not great at venting ID'S and when I blow these up on my phone they get too grainy. I'm much better at identifying them by physical characteristics. If I had to guess I'd say male but that's just a guess. Dovii usual have very obvious physical markers once they get 3-4 inches. The main one being spotting in the unpaired fins for males. Females will have clear fins with no spots.
 
I'm not great at venting ID'S and when I blow these up on my phone they get too grainy. I'm much better at identifying them by physical characteristics. If I had to guess I'd say male but that's just a guess. Dovii usual have very obvious physical markers once they get 3-4 inches. The main one being spotting in the unpaired fins for males. Females will have clear fins with no spots.
I appreciate that and your time. Yeah I’m still a little confused. I get so many mixed opinions even though my Dovii is around 4 inches now. I’ll post a pic of the one I just sent a vent pic of (the one you are guessing is male) and maybe you can give me your view on its gender

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You could try darkening up the substrate and using a black background. They are very washed out in these pics which is making it difficult to see the markings. That one appears to have some spotting in the dorsal although it's very light, and I can't see any in the other unpaired fins so that's a bit of a toss up. Also the heavier spotting on the sides usually indicates male, particularly above the lateral line.
 
These are pics of my second pair at around 3 and 4 inches, after they paired up. Hopefully these can help demonstrate the difference in the spotting that I'm trying to explain.

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Not great pics but you can see how the female has some very light spots on her sides that come and go but they are very reduced and pretty much limited to below the lateral line, and clear fins with no spots. The males will retain darker spots that are more prominent all over the sides top to bottom. Plus develop them in all of the unpaired fins. This is them a little older.

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Not great pics but you can see how the female has some very light spots on her sides that come and go but they are very reduced and pretty much limited to below the lateral line, and clear fins with no spots. The males will retain darker spots that are more prominent all over the sides top to bottom. Plus develop them in all of the unpaired fins. This is them a little older.

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Thank you so much once again. That really does help and I’m sure will help many reading this thread. I took your advice and went ahead and changed my substrate to a black gravel. The results are immediate how they have changed color. Perhaps it would be easier to tell gender now. I’ll post a pic of both of them

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Those two pics are both showing spots at the base of the unpaired fins. I'd say they are both males. Looks like the beginning of nuchal humps as well.
 
Those two pics are both showing spots at the base of the unpaired fins. I'd say they are both males. Looks like the beginning of nuchal humps as well.
Thank you bud. I’ll post a follow up picture in a few months. Take care
 
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