Dream tank - yay or nay

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patrick714;4938240; said:
Would rather have 15 huge red arowanas in there

That would be overstocking in a freshwater tank let alone a saltwater.
 
Very few fish actually eat corals, and even fewer actually eat sps corals.

Most "non-reef safe" fish have that designation because they will eat any fish or inverts that can fit into their mouths.
 
FLESHY;4939531; said:
Very few fish actually eat corals, and even fewer actually eat sps corals.

Most "non-reef safe" fish have that designation because they will eat any fish or inverts that can fit into their mouths.

Agreed and adding to the "non reef safe", they get big and knock stuff over and don't care. This can be remedied to an extent with some of them by offering lots of space. Not bottom dwelling things like sharks and rays however.
 
nonstophoops;4938231; said:
This is irrelevant in this case like stated above. Puffers pick at sedentary animals. You don't want eye-less sharks and rays....

Other than that it looks pretty good. No anemones. They will sting sharks and rays that swim over them.

Same goes for corals, not stinging, but getting knocked around and killed by sharks and rays that will swim all over them.

good call, my point was mainly to clarify the misconception that porcupine puffers are not safe with corals. its more of a hit than miss.

regarding the shark/ray tank, if i was setting one up and wanted fish i would look into some large tangs like a vlamingii, unicorn, dussimier, a nice red volitan lionfish, cool eel, maybe a miniatus grouper etc

a 300 is too small imho for this type of tank imho.
 
FLESHY;4939531; said:
Very few fish actually eat corals, and even fewer actually eat sps corals.

Most "non-reef safe" fish have that designation because they will eat any fish or inverts that can fit into their mouths.

eating inverts and also they are not ideal for an sps tank due to the massive amounts of waste they produce, although that could be minimized too with different kinds of nutrient extraction ie carbon dosing, refugium, ats etc

when i had a softie/predator type tank i did not have any issues with my tusk and porcupine eating my cleaner shrimp though ... but thats a much bigger risk than corals
 
Shrimp you can get away with, but they should be in the tank before the preds imoe.

When you talk about doing a pred reef, a major bioload is assumed...so suggestions come with the assumption that whoever is running this reef is going to have the filtration to do what they are talking about. Puffers are probably worse bio-load wise than large lionfish anyways.
 
not to mention if you had a puffer die and you didnt catch it, you run the risk of killing some fish, or even worse yet, the entire tank.
 
Yeah true, with all the drawbacks they are still one of my fav all time fish , very few have the personality of a big puffer

I plan on putting one in my fowlr in a few months or so
 
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