Driftwood question

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burbon44s

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How do u know if u got a bad piece of driftwood?
This last winter, a friend and I went out driftwood hunting off the milwaukee river and I found an awesome piece for my new ray tank. I found it out of the water so it was pretty dried up. I took it home and it sat out for about a month.
When I was ready to use it, I soaked and scrubbed it clean.
Being in my tank for awhile, it seemed to get slimey . It was almost like a fuzz.
Then I started to think maybe that's why the rays weren't eating like they were in the old tank.
So without hesitation I pulled it out.
And now they seem to be eating better.
But! Was the driftwood the problem?
Anyone else come across this?
Was it a bacteria?
Could it have killed my rays?

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Looks like a nice piece of driftwood ... I'd probably use it too. Couple of questions, when you found this driftwood you said it was pretty dried out. When you brought it home and let it sit for a month, I'm assuming this was out of water. And what I'm about to say is based on this assumption ... sorry if I'm assumming wrong.
You should've first taken a pressure hose and blasted your driftwood once getting it home, then for that month you had it sitting ... that would've been the ideal time to weigh it down in a big tub submerged in water. Changing the water periodically to help remove the tannis (I've read some people add salt as well). Now boiling the driftwood afterwards (or thoroughly washing it with boiling water) helps remove any fungus and such that could be still attached to said driftwood. There's lots of info on here between the sticky's as well just under the topic driftwood, as to methods at curing driftwood. Speaking from experience here on that note ... its what I utilized when I was doing my own driftwood.
My guess, (still fairly new) is you've got a form of mold/fungus still in your driftwood ... and thats why you saw the fuzzy stuff on it. If the driftwood is treated properly that shouldn't have appeared. I'd still use the wood ... once its treated properly.

I do see you soaked and scrubbed it clean you say ... and I'm not disputing that. It's just for larger pieces I've read/heard of people having to soak them for longer than a month at times, and you did say this piece was pretty dried out.
 
When I got it home I just soaked it in water. Before I put it in tank I scrubbed and rinsed it but that's all.
I heard that I should have added salt, but that was after already having it in the tank.
Do u think the fungus was the cause of my rays eating problems?
The piece of driftwood is way too big for an oven.
It's about 32 x 28 x 20

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I'm still fairly new myself, and I've never had Rays before .... but it would make sense that was causing the eating problems, especially since they seem to be eating normal again you said. I cured all my own driftwood for my tanks, most of it was small enough to fit into a cauldron and boil it .. never tried baking any before. For a couple of pieces that didn't fit in the cauldron, I had my wife poor the boiling water over the driftwood as I scrubbed it with a wire brush, this was repeated several times and I did this in a wash basin.
I wouldn't give up on that chunk of driftwood ... I'd just start over. If you just spend a little time reading about how others have done it .... you'll have many options to choose from. Just search "curing Driftwood" on this site alone, will provide ample info. I utilized this site as well as some info on the net, before I attempted mine. But I'm almost guaranteed you still had some kind of fungus or such still on your driftwood, especially as it was pretty dried out when you got it.
When you first added it to water ... I gotta wonder how much it floated still.
 
It floated bad. I had to attach a 4 lb porcelain base to the bottom.

I had a feeling that was the case .... yeah if I was you I'd start over. First spray the hell out of it with a pressure washer, go over it with a wire brush at the same time. Just to remove any loose or near loose particles. Plus considering what happened. Then throw it into a big tub of water (a lake or pond would work perfect and save changing water here), fully submerged (that 4lb porcelain base will work perfect here to hold it down). Every 1-3 days (depending on how tannis is leaching) empty the water out and replenish with fresh. You'll know when by the colour of the water.

If you want to use salt in any of these processes for curing your driftwood ... you'll have to do some research. I personally have never used the salt method, but have read where people have. Added benefit = I've no idea and won't comment. But it seems to work as well.

Now depending on how the driftwood is leaching, looking and its size, plus bouyancy. You could be soaking this for a while now. Remember your driftwood was fully dry, so this could take longer than most. I made sure my driftwood sunk to the bottom, before I used it. Although larger pieces take that much longer. (I had one piece that I considered iffy ... but it's managed to stay on the bottom unassisted.) So some people have to weigh them down anyway, for this reason as well as some want the tannis.

Note to consider, as some people prefer tannis in there tanks (its what makes your tank water look like tea). Whether you want it or not, will also determine how long and how many flushes of water you do, while soaking the driftwood to make it sink. But even after you do all this you may still end up with tannis in your tank (afterall that looks like a decent sized piece). If you want to remove said tannis, from your tank. You can always add charcoal to your filter ... actually tried it and noticed the difference. Had a tank running with charcoal in the filter, with a chunk of treated driftwood in it, for 2 weeks no tannis was present. Only took out the charcoal and maintained the same water changes, within 2 days you could see the tannis throughout the tank water.

Once this is done (the soaking part) now you want to sterilize it. I've never used salt like I said. But in your case, my gut says you might want to just for overkill ... but you'll have to do the research on that one. What I did ... I share with you. For the pieces that fit ... I put them in my cauldron and boiled them for about 20 - 25 mins. Fully submerged and full boil for the 20 - 25 minutes. I'd read that 15 mins was enough .... but wanted to be safe. After that I put mine into my tank.
Now the pieces that didn't fit into my cauldron ... i had a large washbasin, where I placed the driftwood so I could scrub with a wire brush (have a few different ones for different sizes and shapes) while my wife (Alot of trust here) poored boiling water over the areas I'm working. We did this 5 or 6 times over the whole thing ... I'd keep scrubbing with the water in the basin, while she got the next jug. The final poor was more of a rinse than anything, as I held and rotated it while she poored the boiling water over it.

I now have driftwood in all my tanks (only 3 tanks ... so far). I've treated 5 pieces trying to learn, so far everything has turned out okay. (knock on wood) As for judging when each stage was done ... not much help ... just kinda followed my gut based off of all the reading I did before my first attempt. And I've only used hardwood ... I know people have talked about softwood, but I was advised away from it ... and thought best to play it safe.

Hope this helps .... I've posted things like it before, not this much detail. But there's alot of info on this site about curing driftwood.
 
Thank you so much,, helps a lot.

But now, after looking at this piece, that's been out for a while, it kinda looks soft.
The corners have started to fray into little pieces.
What if it is a soft wood? Is it still worth trying?
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I pick up pieces of driftwood from the shore of Lake Michigan all the time, but I soak them for a few months in a rain barrel before using them weighed down with a brick.
Most driftwood will fungus up a bit when first put in, and will soften up.
All that said, while the Milwaukee river has been cleaned up a bit compared to what it used it be, there are bacteria and parasites that occur naturally, and other toxins that get dumped in that I would worry about. Lake Michigan is much cleaner, but I still soak a long time before using, and often I will take a sacrifice fish and put it in the rain barrel a week or 2 to see if it is negatively affected in any way.
 
If it was the white fuzz it will go away eventually and will not harm the fish (I've even heard that fish eat it). But rivers carry the waste of people (gas, oil, chemicals, other run off) an that could have been leaching into your tank. Submerge the piece for a month, changing the water every few days and then try it again


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