Dying EBJD!

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Don't screw with your pH, it's fine where it's at. Mine is higher than that and my 2 EBJD's were raised in it and grew super fast. Messing with pH causes more problems than it ever solved. I agree with the poster that said your nitrate reading of 40 ppm is more of a problem than pH ever would be. That's high. Low nitrates (ie lots of water changes) is what makes fish grow fast. My 2 grew fast and did great for 9 months and then 1 died with no warning whatsoever. These aren't always the hardiest of fish and have quite a few problems.
 
TwistedPenguin;3043589; said:
Don't screw with your pH, it's fine where it's at. Mine is higher than that and my 2 EBJD's were raised in it and grew super fast. Messing with pH causes more problems than it ever solved. I agree with the poster that said your nitrate reading of 40 ppm is more of a problem than pH ever would be. That's high. Low nitrates (ie lots of water changes) is what makes fish grow fast. My 2 grew fast and did great for 9 months and then 1 died with no warning whatsoever. These aren't always the hardiest of fish and have quite a few problems.
I agree with you 200%. I wont screw with the PH, just do 25% water changes every other day and reduce my stock. I guess I'll have to re-establish my other aquarium. It should do well. I might just have these in an aquarium all alone with a few loaches.
 
Rockbass6;3042692; said:
I didn't see your nitrate 40ppm is high. I have always heard below 50 all the time, but you ideally want them below 25ppm. Try using nitrogen removing filter media.

50 for nitrates is waaay high. When I see my nitrates getting up to 25-30 I know I have been slacking with the water changes. If you are consistantly showing 40 then you need to up your regular water changes to either be more frequent or larger quantities. If you maintenance is adequate than you do not need to spend money on nitrate removing filter material or carbon or any other "miracle" products. Do you know if you have high nitrates out of the tap? (I would check that to see what you start with) EBJD are not the hardiest fish out there, so I would start with getting your nitrates down, keeping your Ph stable and see if that makes a difference..........works for me ;)
 
What is your KH? pH was never an issue.
 
Malawidolphin;3043634; said:
50 for nitrates is waaay high. When I see my nitrates getting up to 25-30 I know I have been slacking with the water changes. If you are consistantly showing 40 then you need to up your regular water changes to either be more frequent or larger quantities. If you maintenance is adequate than you do not need to spend money on nitrate removing filter material or carbon or any other "miracle" products. Do you know if you have high nitrates out of the tap? (I would check that to see what you start with) EBJD are not the hardiest fish out there, so I would start with getting your nitrates down, keeping your Ph stable and see if that makes a difference..........works for me ;)

My nitrates are tipically 30-40. My water changes are 30% weekly. I'll just reduce stock, and continue with my maintenance. The filter is more than adequate, and I'll just increase water rotations as well. I'm going to have the EBJD in a tank by themselves until they are at least 3-4". A lot of great answers, but allagree on one thing: EBJD are not hardy by any means. THey strees out easily, can be skittish, not considered to be safe until 3", and will always have to be monitored.
 
Ph wont be the cause like everyones already said,my tapwaters 8,and i have no problems.EBJDs are renowned for being gentically weak in many strains,that along with high nitrates is more likely the cause.Also,i see someone mentioned frozen bloodworm having parasites-how?,freezing kills most off,and certainly here in the uk,its all irradiated with gamma rays .
 
I will approch this like so: Re-establish 28G Bowfront, relocate most other fish (3 Zebra Loaches, 1 Bristlenose pleco, 1 CAE, 1 Rainbow Shark) I dont know which, to this other tank. Then have just 3 of the EBJD all by themselves. the 3 are abot 2.5". Hopefully they wil improve.
 
ya for some reason.. i get stuff that

Blood worms, especially frozen blood worms.. cause internal parasite...

I thought its safe for fish... I hardly feed any of my fish bloodworms anymore.. but i had a EBJD died from that.. I think.. i only feed it blood worms, and his stomach developed blotting.

But EBJDs in general are weak, and need special care...
 
Hmm, so frozen foods can still cause parasites/etc? What about freeze-dried blood worms? More or less likely than frozen?

zerojquan85;3044097; said:
ya for some reason.. i get stuff that

Blood worms, especially frozen blood worms.. cause internal parasite...

I thought its safe for fish... I hardly feed any of my fish bloodworms anymore.. but i had a EBJD died from that.. I think.. i only feed it blood worms, and his stomach developed blotting.

But EBJDs in general are weak, and need special care...
 
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