just got 2 and was wondering could you find these in the wild? im guessing yes but was curious....
EBJD
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i am not speaking form my own experience, as i havent been to all wild populations of this species but it is o the common belief no. natural selection is a cruel process that these fish in their infancy barely survive in aquaria so it is believed it is even less likely in the wild
+1...unless someone grows out a batch of 100+ mature BGenes and dump them into a pond or river/lake...then Im sure a few EBJ may survive and grow in wild.
that is a good idea , jk dont flame i mean it is good for strong wile ebjd someone should try it in a private creek or something idk
how do u make a blue gene? i thought it was random. EBJDs would prolly stick out like a sore thumb in the wild so even if they were made in the wild im sure they'd get picked off pretty quick.
Blue gene is obtained by breeding a Male/Female EBJD to a normal male/female JD. The resulting offspring are all what is known as Blue genes(BGJD). If you breed two blue genes together, theoretically, you should obtain a 25% yield of EBJD. If you breed a EBJD to a BGJD, theoretically, the yield is 50% EBJD. I do believe EBJD is naturally occuring, in that the mutation can take place without intervention but I'd also think most if not all will die young in the wild. Chances are, you won't walk in on an EBJD in the wild.
I'm sure they can be found in the wild in extremely rare instances, it has to be possible because they posses the gene to begin with. Now you might never find one at all... it might be something like 1 in 1,000,000 fish with this trait... and you know what they say "the pretty fish gets eaten first" lol... Imagine that little shiny blue spot trying to hide among a school of brown baby JD. Free lunch for the nearest bird/frog/whatever.
But these naturally occurring EBJD wouldn't be weak and deformed... because they wouldn't be inbred to hell. They would just be incredibly rare.
But these naturally occurring EBJD wouldn't be weak and deformed... because they wouldn't be inbred to hell. They would just be incredibly rare.
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The fellow that started it all in 1985 is Hector Luzardo. Apparently he received a pair of BGJDs and noticed EBJDs in the progeny. Jeff imported from him in the early days.
Here is an interesting read on this subject: http://www.elacuarista.com/secciones/tfhblue.htm
I guess the question now is where the BGJD pair came from. I remember reading an online article before that stated the BGJDs were collected from the wild, but the location was kept secret. Can't remember where I read that from but will post it here if I find it again. So don't believe it yet
The fellow that started it all in 1985 is Hector Luzardo. Apparently he received a pair of BGJDs and noticed EBJDs in the progeny. Jeff imported from him in the early days.
Here is an interesting read on this subject: http://www.elacuarista.com/secciones/tfhblue.htm
I guess the question now is where the BGJD pair came from. I remember reading an online article before that stated the BGJDs were collected from the wild, but the location was kept secret. Can't remember where I read that from but will post it here if I find it again. So don't believe it yet
HMM I Dont think its viable. First off I've heard in the wild only one baby per spawn on average makes it to 1 year.Then think of the competetion the blue gene's would out compete the ebjd.And predators then would pick off the blue colored babies
with that said in mind I do believe maybe blue gene's exist.
with that said in mind I do believe maybe blue gene's exist.