Ebola round 2

[pacu mom]

In Oregon, we hand the credit card to the attendant at the gas pump (you can't pump your own gas in Oregon). In restaurants the credit card get placed on the little tray the tab comes on. But let's face it everything in my purse is contaminated with money, credit cards....so my keys are also contaminated, and everything in my wallet....licenses, Medicare and health insurance cards......who wipes their insurance card after it is handed back to them? Actuallly, I never really thought about it until now. So at the ER (we were there last week) the insurance card gets handed over to the intake staff. What if they just handled and Ebola patient's insurance card? A person could worry themselves into the grave with all the what ifs......they wouldn't need an Ebola infection to kill them.

Just wiped down my cell phone and the outside of my purse. I'm going to put my cell phone back in its pocket which has not been wiped down. This whole process is self-defeating..... oh well

 

[skjl47]

Using a porous fiber-based material (cash) instead of a non-porous surface (credit card plastic) that can be sanitized in a dishwasher or with spray cleansers sounds like a TERRIBLE idea. If that's your preference, you can just literally launder the money, though.

Hello; After thinking about your post some additional things come to mind. You happen to be correct that I have a choice with regard to handling money. Many others do not have any choice. Clerks at fast food restaurants, quick stop stores and such must handle money and have no option. Waiters and bus boys must handle menus and clean up after people. Teachers must handle the papers of dozens of students. Some people cannot get or simply decide not to use credit cards for various reasons.

It is very hard to determine the implied tone of written posts so I will not read any negative intent into it.

I have taken my chances with cash for years even with the prior knowledge that there is a chance of it harboring pathogens. I started good hand practice years ago while still teaching and try to continue the practice. The number of colds and such I caught each year went down after I avoided touching my face and washed my hands more often.

My initial thinking is to have some disinfectant gel or hand wipes in my car and pockets for the next while so I can use them while out and about shopping. The real odds of coming in contact with this particular virus (ebola) are likely still very small. I would say that a few days ago nobody flying on a regional airplane or taking a cruise thought there was any chance at all of having potential interaction with someone recently around a person infected with ebola. I think the number is now in the several hundreds.

 

[skjl47]

In Oregon, we hand the credit card to the attendant at the gas pump (you can't pump your own gas in Oregon). In restaurants the credit card get placed on the little tray the tab comes on. But let's face it everything in my purse is contaminated with money, credit cards....so my keys are also contaminated, and everything in my wallet....licenses, Medicare and health insurance cards......who wipes their insurance card after it is handed back to them? Actuallly, I never really thought about it until now. So at the ER (we were there last week) the insurance card gets handed over to the intake staff. What if they just handled and Ebola patient's insurance card? A person could worry themselves into the grave with all the what ifs......they wouldn't need an Ebola infection to kill them.

Just wiped down my cell phone and the outside of my purse. I'm going to put my cell phone back in its pocket which has not been wiped down. This whole process is self-defeating..... oh well

Hello; You are correct. There is only so much that can reasonably be done over time, there is always some risk that cannot be avoided. I will take some precautions but I am not quite ready for the plastic bubble.

There is a plastic bubble made for folks to store classic cars in. The bubbles zip closed around the car and have a small fan running all the time that fills them with filtered air. They are made for indoor or outdoor storage. I suppose the filters could be modified to trap most things, dont know about a virus tho. Hope I do not get paranoid to the point of actually considering such a thing. I do not plan to live forever but do not want to leak away.

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

You guys are getting paranoid. Time to get yourselves a plastic bubble to isolate yourself from the rest of the world.

Understatement bro


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[pacu mom]

It is very hard to determine the implied tone of written posts so I will not read any negative intent into it.



My initial thinking is to have some disinfectant gel or hand wipes in my car and pockets for the next while so I can use them while out and about shopping. The real odds of coming in contact with this particular virus (ebola) are likely still very small. I would say that a few days ago nobody flying on a regional airplane or taking a cruise thought there was any chance at all of having potential interaction with someone recently around a person infected with ebola. I think the number is now in the several hundreds.

If "implied tone of written posts" pertains to what I have written. No negative intent was involved. I have watched this whole Ebola fiasco with a morbid dread. In infection control it is assumed that everything is biohazardous, and we proceed accordingly. With Ebola, you cannot assume that every person has Ebola and act accordingly or you would be completely isolated. It appears that the Dallas health care workers should have assumed that Duncan had Ebola and taken the appropriate precautions for themselves. On the other end of the spectrum, I think they have gone through needless extreme measures after the fact. If the virus is so easily killed, why did they remove the carpet, and destroy so much of the nurse's posessions? The whole Dallas fiasco is closing the barn door after the horses have already escaped.

A lot of back pedaling has been done by the "experts" Wouldn't surprise me if some heads roll. Scary to think that we have 9 -19 (different news articles) beds in biocontainment units in the US. After what happened in Dallas, scary to think of having a condition that warrants a trip to the ER. The US is not ready nor prepared for Ebola. It is one thing to bring in an Ebola patient to a biocontainment unit. It is something totally different to have an Ebola patient present themselves uninvited and unannounced at our backdoor (any ER or clinic in the US) with symptoms that could be Ebola or a stomach flu.

 

[petspoiler]

I must say, pacu mom is running away with great comedy awards & pretty much Making this thread...and I now think of skjl47 as our very own in house "Mr Monk". Hopefully you are familiar with that past tv show character. I'll never forget the episode where he unknowingly meeting with a full blown leper. Lllllll
there is a little bit of Monk in all of us, when it comes to contagions!

 

[heatherbeast]

Hello; After thinking about your post some additional things come to mind. You happen to be correct that I have a choice with regard to handling money. Many others do not have any choice. Clerks at fast food restaurants, quick stop stores and such must handle money and have no option. Waiters and bus boys must handle menus and clean up after people. Teachers must handle the papers of dozens of students. Some people cannot get or simply decide not to use credit cards for various reasons.

It is very hard to determine the implied tone of written posts so I will not read any negative intent into it.

(He was probably referring to me, petspoiler). And thanks for the understanding skjl, I can't spend too much time editing because we are pretty busy at work.

I have taken my chances with cash for years even with the prior knowledge that there is a chance of it harboring pathogens. I started good hand practice years ago while still teaching and try to continue the practice. The number of colds and such I caught each year went down after I avoided touching my face and washed my hands more often.

I am glad you brought this up. It DOES take practice and a conscious effort. Can you tell us more about the length of time it took to get into the habit? How often during that time did you catch yourself touching, if you don't mind me asking?

My initial thinking is to have some disinfectant gel or hand wipes in my car and pockets for the next while so I can use them while out and about shopping. The real odds of coming in contact with this particular virus (ebola) are likely still very small. I would say that a few days ago nobody flying on a regional airplane or taking a cruise thought there was any chance at all of having potential interaction with someone recently around a person infected with ebola. I think the number is now in the several hundreds.

There are plenty of other more prevalent things (like your colds you mentioned) that the hand wipes and disinfectants will kill, yes. Luckily ebola is among them. A quick shortcut is to look for any disinfectants that have a claim that the product kills Hepatitis and Influenza.

 

[heatherbeast]

I must say, pacu mom is running away with great comedy awards & pretty much Making this thread...and I now think of skjl47 as our very own in house "Monk". Hopefully you are familiar with that past tv show character. I'll never forget the episode where he unknowingly meeting with a full blown leper. Lllllll
there is a little bit of Monk in all of us, when it comes to contagions!

Oooh oooh can I be House?

 

[heatherbeast]

On the other end of the spectrum, I think they have gone through needless extreme measures after the fact. If the virus is so easily killed, why did they remove the carpet, and destroy so much of the nurse's posessions?

I feel like a lot of the response is being done to appease the public -- people would go berserk if these unnecessary things WEREN'T done. :/

 

[petspoiler]

Oooh oooh can I be House?

you're not insensitive & crass enough to be House ;-)