Ebola round 2
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Hello; the story of the nurse that flew to Cleveland Ohio is not as dramatic now that she is declared free of the virus. The last story I saw was about how she reported not being properly trained/prepared to treat Mr. Duncan. Ebola has been around and known about since the 1970's. If I were a health care worker, having the knowledge and skill to deal with any known infectious disease would be a high priority. I would want that skill even if I had to master it on my own. Having the proper protective suits and other equipment around is the responsibility of the facility administrators but the skill to use what is available often falls to the worker. I know I had to make do with what was on hand in various jobs over the years, often along with personally owned tools. Bosses keep an eye on the bottom and may only have the minimum around.
I guess we may not learn more about the 250,000 protective suits reported to be sent to Dallas recently? One useful outcome from the "hype" around the recent scare in the USA may be that we have gained a lot of useful understanding about of the "state of the art" health care system we are supposed to have.
Even with the alleged suppression by the current authorities, the reporting will likely pick back up with the next confirmed case. The message is out that the USA is not going to uniformly restrict the movement of people from the "hot spots". I am grateful for the governors of the states that still have a mandatory quarantine in place. The authorities still want the teams of civilian health care workers to move fairly freely with only minimal monitoring. As already stated in another post, we already have experience with how well the health care workers follow the rules.
a few things, and each point compounds the problematic reasoning of official PR being tossed about:
1. It was CDC advisors which permitted the nurse, Amber Vinson, to leave Dallas and then fly back with a low fever.
2. Kaci Hickox was a Centers for Disease Control (CDC) trained intelligence officer, and is employed by the CDC She was not merely a doctors without borders missions worker. Her CDC affiliation was scrubbed from her "Linked In" professional profile after she began her civil rights crusade for ebola workers.
3. Officials are claiming that risk management decisions are, and should be, only based on science.
Alarmed civilians AND even the media have now been berated into silence unless new cases are diagnosed in USA.
So I have to ask then, WHY will all our soldiers be quarantined for 21 days after serving in ebola countries & they will not be able to go anywhere until the 21 day Qt is completed? They aren't even direct medical care workers.
BUT at the same time, why are nurse Kaci and Amber and the Drs who worked at the highest exposure risk having their civil rights violated by simple quarantines?
Are soldiers scientifically more susceptible to ebola? Can they magically sprinkle ebola dust everywhere they go & endanger others?
Are Drs & nurses scientifically less of a risk?
I mean seriously. Since when does science defy all logic and also contradict itself?
FACTs: Most ebola cases=medical care providers. *but their civil rights are to roam about freely & self monitor.
Being "in the vicinity" of ebola= the lowest possible risk of exposure, but PROTOCOL: soldiers will be held in full 21 day QT.
???
1. It was CDC advisors which permitted the nurse, Amber Vinson, to leave Dallas and then fly back with a low fever.
2. Kaci Hickox was a Centers for Disease Control (CDC) trained intelligence officer, and is employed by the CDC She was not merely a doctors without borders missions worker. Her CDC affiliation was scrubbed from her "Linked In" professional profile after she began her civil rights crusade for ebola workers.
3. Officials are claiming that risk management decisions are, and should be, only based on science.
Alarmed civilians AND even the media have now been berated into silence unless new cases are diagnosed in USA.
So I have to ask then, WHY will all our soldiers be quarantined for 21 days after serving in ebola countries & they will not be able to go anywhere until the 21 day Qt is completed? They aren't even direct medical care workers.
BUT at the same time, why are nurse Kaci and Amber and the Drs who worked at the highest exposure risk having their civil rights violated by simple quarantines?
Are soldiers scientifically more susceptible to ebola? Can they magically sprinkle ebola dust everywhere they go & endanger others?
Are Drs & nurses scientifically less of a risk?
I mean seriously. Since when does science defy all logic and also contradict itself?
FACTs: Most ebola cases=medical care providers. *but their civil rights are to roam about freely & self monitor.
Being "in the vicinity" of ebola= the lowest possible risk of exposure, but PROTOCOL: soldiers will be held in full 21 day QT.
???
I think thats only the case because soldiers are easier to control
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yeah but the point is: officials are preaching/claiming that all Protocol should be based on the pure science of exposure risk, and only that. Nothing else.
The different Protocols are completely opposite of what they define as "the science" of risk.
Nurse Hickox (salary paid for by you & I) could drown in a bucket of ebola vomit for all she's worth.
Jurors temporarily relinquish their civil rights to WAYYyy more when they are sequestered., and that is to protect the rights of ONE citizen to a fair trial. That biotch had to fight and whine bcuz of 21 days small inconveniences? and to protect the entire public from the risk of serious disease? she was at home with no cutoff from the world, could watch tv and get food delivered.
I call BS.
One soldier is worth ten thousand self righteous Hickox's.
There are already legal provisions for QT being legal. why just piss on the military? they have less rights than incoming Non-citizen foreign travelers.
WTH?
The different Protocols are completely opposite of what they define as "the science" of risk.
Nurse Hickox (salary paid for by you & I) could drown in a bucket of ebola vomit for all she's worth.
Jurors temporarily relinquish their civil rights to WAYYyy more when they are sequestered., and that is to protect the rights of ONE citizen to a fair trial. That biotch had to fight and whine bcuz of 21 days small inconveniences? and to protect the entire public from the risk of serious disease? she was at home with no cutoff from the world, could watch tv and get food delivered.
I call BS.
One soldier is worth ten thousand self righteous Hickox's.
There are already legal provisions for QT being legal. why just piss on the military? they have less rights than incoming Non-citizen foreign travelers.
WTH?
a few things, and each point compounds the problematic reasoning of official PR being tossed about:
1. It was CDC advisors which permitted the nurse, Amber Vinson, to leave Dallas and then fly back with a low fever.
2. Kaci Hickox was a Centers for Disease Control (CDC) trained “intelligence officer”, and is employed by the CDC She was not merely a doctors without borders missions worker. Her CDC affiliation was scrubbed from her "Linked In" professional profile after she began her civil rights crusade for ebola workers.
3. Officials are claiming that risk management decisions are, and should be, only based on science.
Alarmed civilians AND even the media have now been berated into silence unless new cases are diagnosed in USA.
So I have to ask then, WHY will all our soldiers be quarantined for 21 days after serving in ebola countries & they will not be able to go anywhere until the 21 day Qt is completed? They aren't even direct medical care workers.
BUT at the same time, why are nurse Kaci and Amber and the Drs who worked at the highest exposure risk having their civil rights violated by simple quarantines?
Are soldiers scientifically more susceptible to ebola? Can they magically sprinkle ebola dust everywhere they go & endanger others?
Are Drs & nurses scientifically less of a risk?
I mean seriously. Since when does science defy all logic and also contradict itself?
FACTs: Most ebola cases=medical care providers. *but their civil rights are to roam about freely & self monitor.
Being "in the vicinity" of ebola= the lowest possible risk of exposure, but PROTOCOL: soldiers will be held in full 21 day QT.
???
Hello; This is a well written and thought out post. I agree with you. I did not know of Hickox's association with the CDC, thanks for that.
Hello; Another good post. I especially enjoyed the mental image of nurse Hickox's imaginary drowning. #1 to the value of the soldiers being ordered into Africa.
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