Electric blue acara issue

[duanes]

One of the most interesting interactions I see in the tank.
I percieve the tetras, as "the" most immediate and efficient threats to the fry, but once they are chased out of the immediate vicinity of the fry shoal, the parent cichlids quickly break off chase.
But if another cichlid (fairly inept at predation) enters the area, they will chase it relentlessly across the entire length and breadth of the tank until it disappears into the leaf cover.

 

[Deadeye]

One of the most interesting interactions I see in the tank.
I percieve the tetras, as "the" most immediate and efficient threats to the fry, but once they are chased out of the immediate vicinity of the fry shoal, the parent cichlids quickly break off chase.
But if another cichlid (fairly inept at predation) enters the area, they will chase it relentlessly across the entire length and breadth of the tank until it disappears into the leaf cover.
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This is a shot in the dark, but what if it feels threatened that another cichlid would have influence over the fry or mate. Say a male came over to a pair of acaras. Could they be chasing it so that it doesn’t attempt to raise the fry, essentially making it the new male’s nest despite the work the original male put in? Tetras don’t carry that risk, they are just annoyances. Even humans are like that sometimes. Kinda random, but I just had the thought and just went with it.

 

[Raph02]

Hey guys thanks for all your replies! Greatly appreciate all your input and after reading it all I posted the fish on a local page. And instantly I have someone who is coming today to pick him up and he will be going into a 55 gallon that will only have him and a pleco in it so I feel like that’s a good situation for him and it gets him out of my little 20 gallon spare tank.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

This is a shot in the dark, but what if it feels threatened that another cichlid would have influence over the fry or mate. Say a male came over to a pair of acaras. Could they be chasing it so that it doesn’t attempt to raise the fry, essentially making it the new male’s nest despite the work the original male put in? Tetras don’t carry that risk, they are just annoyances. Even humans are like that sometimes. Kinda random, but I just had the thought and just went with it.

You know this actually could be the case, kinda. I would imagine allot like a lion pride, it's not too uncommon to have 2 male lions ruling over a pride but only 1 will ever breed while the other will eventually be exiled. Something similar may have happened here and they are just getting to the exiling part of it, thus the increased aggression. Also male lions out in the wild will try to sneak into a pride and kill off the young to hopefully make room for his own, I honestly wouldn't put it past a fish to do the same. Just think about it, if the new male sneaks in and kills off the entire spawn well now the female is going to be receptive to breeding again. Also if the old male isn't around to prevent it, the female may pair off with the new male and try for another spawn ASAP. Granted this is all speculation at best.

 

[Deadeye]

You know this actually could be the case, kinda. I would imagine allot like a lion pride, it's not too uncommon to have 2 male lions ruling over a pride but only 1 will ever breed while the other will eventually be exiled. Something similar may have happened here and they are just getting to the exiling part of it, thus the increased aggression. Also male lions out in the wild will try to sneak into a pride and kill off the young to hopefully make room for his own, I honestly wouldn't put it past a fish to do the same. Just think about it, if the new male sneaks in and kills off the entire spawn well now the female is going to be receptive to breeding again. Also if the old male isn't around to prevent it, the female may pair off with the new male and try for another spawn ASAP. Granted this is all speculation at best.

 

[Magnus_Bane]

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Truthfully, according to lion habits. Scar should have been king from the start as males with a darker manes tend to gather the attention of females more easily. Also scar and mufasa were 2 different species of lions, just look at the back of their knees, scar's is extra furry while mufasa's aren't.

 

[Deadeye]

Truthfully, according to lion habits. Scar should have been king from the start as males with a darker manes tend to gather the attention of females more easily. Also scar and mufasa were 2 different species of lions, just look at the back of their knees, scar's is extra furry while mufasa's aren't.

Funny, I always said the exact same thing. Are there more species than Asian and African lions though? And now we’ve gone from acaras to lions...

 

[Magnus_Bane]

Funny, I always said the exact same thing. Are there more species than Asian and African lions though? And now we’ve gone from acaras to lions...

African and asian are technically the only 2 species but they do have subspecies of those. North east congo lion, Katanga lion a.k.a. south west african lion, Kruger lion, Masaai/serengeti lion, Abyssinian lion, Senegal lion a.k.a. west african lion, Somali lion, Cape lion, Barbary lion and the Kalahari lion. There's probably more that I'm missing. If I remember correctly, mufasa was a Senegal lion while scar was a Masaai lion. Also some of these subspecies may be extinct now.

 

[Deadeye]

African and asian are technically the only 2 species but they do have subspecies of those. North east congo lion, Katanga lion a.k.a. south west african lion, Kruger lion, Masaai/serengeti lion, Abyssinian lion, Senegal lion a.k.a. west african lion, Somali lion, Cape lion, Barbary lion and the Kalahari lion. There's probably more that I'm missing. If I remember correctly, mufasa was a Senegal lion while scar was a Masaai lion. Also some of these subspecies may be extinct now.

And here I was thinking I knew a lot about lions!

 

[Magnus_Bane]

And here I was thinking I knew a lot about lions!

Lol I honestly can't tell the differences between most of em. Just allot of minor color/hair length differences.