Electric Blue Jack Dempsey 1-2 inch: 19.95 each

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This is from the news letter i git every month from somthingfishy

Electric Blue Jack Dempsies (EBJD) are on of my all time favorite fish. In my opinion, they are the most vividly and brightly colored freshwater fish. They make great community fish and unlike regular Jack Dempsies, they are not very aggressive. I keep them with my discus and show tanks.

EBJD are not hybrids. They were developed using selective breeding techniques. Breeding of EBJD is extremely complicated and as many times as it has been explained to me, I still do not seem to fully grasp it. You cannot just take a pair and breed them. You have to start out with regular Jack Dempsies that have a particular recessive gene. You then have to cross the babies again with the adults that have the recessive gene. It takes three generations to get them. It is actually much more complicated than that, but I tried to give the simple explanation.

All EBJD used to come from a particular breeder in Argentina. That breeder has now moved to Central Florida and started up his breeding operations. http://www.somethingsphishy.com/
 
There are now domestically prodcude EBJD that are bred by hobbyist and they use male and female EBJD, the old method of outcrossing to regular jacks is no longer the only way to get them. Ken
 
fishfarm;2760308; said:
There are now domestically prodcude EBJD that are bred by hobbyist and they use male and female EBJD, the old method of outcrossing to regular jacks is no longer the only way to get them. Ken
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Really? There has only been 1 person I've seen that has successfully bred EBJDxEBJD and raised the fry. He said the quality was horrible and all the fry were destroyed. I've thought for some time that eventually EBJDxEBJD would produce viable fry once breeders started producing stronger EB's by breeding with reg JD's but didn't think we were there yet.

Do you have any more info on this?
 
there are more than one breeder in the US..

I for one know 3.. One in Jersey, One in Texas and the other in SF...

I know the Breeder in San Francisco Personally... his strand of Genes are from An EBJD from another Breeder in Texas and cross with a regular female JD...

with very good results i might add...

Dont get dumped into getting EBJDs from Local Fish stores.. at .5"-1" those are either weak or not full grown enough to be sold.

I also got some EBJDs in Thailand.. at 2" but they are Blue Genes.. i think.. still very good color on them..
 
are the EBJD hard to raise...Cause I heard they tend to die at an early age......so at what size would be good to buy them at??
 
GTbEaSt;2760744; said:
are the EBJD hard to raise...Cause I heard they tend to die at an early age......so at what size would be good to buy them at??
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I recommend at size 2"+ cuz EBJD growth rate are extremely slow.. people have said that in 6months time.. they grew 1 to 2 inches... but it also depends on the fish.. Some breeders who breed wrong.. do EBJD x EBJD.. and those off springs will not survive.. because its mostly likely they are from a defective strand..

Proper way of doing EBJD Is having 1 EBJD male/female (Usually Male) and 1 JD to breed.. you'll get better genes that way..

You can get them at 1.5" or smaller.. but chances are.. they will not live pass the 1.5" mark.. It happen to me.. I got some from a LFS and they both died.. in 2 months time...

Play it safe and get good genes.. (Jeff Rapps has good ones) look in Allthingsdempsey.com as well as Electricbluejackdempsey forum as well.. thats where all the breeders are at.

And if you do see LFS with EBJDs ask them if they are local breed or from a supplier.. if they are from a supplier.. well. better think twice.. :(
 
If you are really interested there is alot of information and breeders at these other forums.

www.allthingsdempsey.com

http://bluejax.14.forumer.com/index.php

I have owned EBJD's multiple times over the past 2-3 years. My first time I purchased two at 1.25", both got sick and died within a month. Second time I purchased two at 3.5", both thrived and I sold at 6" as they werent not good breeding material. My third attempt was five at 1", so far three have survived and are about 2" right now, 6 months from purchase.
 
invisyblegypsey;2760286; said:
This is from the news letter i git every month from somthingfishy

Electric Blue Jack Dempsies (EBJD) are on of my all time favorite fish. In my opinion, they are the most vividly and brightly colored freshwater fish. They make great community fish and unlike regular Jack Dempsies, they are not very aggressive. I keep them with my discus and show tanks.

EBJD are not hybrids. They were developed using selective breeding techniques. Breeding of EBJD is extremely complicated and as many times as it has been explained to me, I still do not seem to fully grasp it. You cannot just take a pair and breed them. You have to start out with regular Jack Dempsies that have a particular recessive gene. You then have to cross the babies again with the adults that have the recessive gene. It takes three generations to get them. It is actually much more complicated than that, but I tried to give the simple explanation.

All EBJD used to come from a particular breeder in Argentina. That breeder has now moved to Central Florida and started up his breeding operations. http://www.somethingsphishy.com/
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I CURRENTLY BREED EBJD AND THE CORRECT PROCESS IS TO BREED A REGULAR JACK DEMPSEY WITH A ELECTRIC BLUE , THE OFFSPRING WILL CARRY THR BLUE GENE AND LOOK LIKE A REGULAR JACK. BREED THAT FISH WITH ANOTHER NON RELATED ELECTIC BLUE AND YOU WILL HAVE A MIXED OFFSPRING OFF ELECTRIC BLUES AND BLUE GENE JACK DEMPSEYS (THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO HAVE HEALTHY OFFSPRING).. YOU CAN BREED TWO ELECTRIC BLUES TOGETHER BUT ITS NOT COMMON THAT THEY WILL PAIR UP FIRST AND SECOND YOU END UP WITH LOTS OF DEAD BABIES AS THEY ARE MORE PRONE TO BLOAT POP EYE AND DEATH .. ONCE A ELECTRIC BLUE IS AROUND TWO INCHES THEY ARE ALOT LESS SUSEPTABLE TO ILLNESS AND ARE TRULY A BRILLIANT AND BEAUTIFUL FISH .. IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT WANTS ANY LET ME KNOW AS I THINK EVERY FRESHWATER TANK SHOULD HAVE A FEW . www.drowsieone@yahoo.com
 
I have had ebjds for some time now and u always see on the net about them no being very aggressine but o had mine in with a couple African cichlids and every once and a while I'll give them raw hamburger to make them aggressive and they killed my Africans and they were smaller then them. I think the trick with them is you have to treat them like they are aggressive and they just end up that way
 
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