right now my pig nos in its 15 gallon grow out tank with 4 1'' tilapias and for 8 months the tilapia aren't dead. I hope this is what happens with my endli.
Endli with a Pignose turtle AKA Fly river Turtle
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My 15" PNT lives with a 16" RTG, 14" ST, 15" FF and 16" ornate right now... I keep the PNT pretty well fed, if i dont the PNT starts to harass the fish starting, with the slow ones....
I sold all my 12-15" bichirs (except the ornate) and 14" giant raphael cat because those were the ones it went after. It did fin and dorsal ray damage to the bichirs... The giant raphael was a tank and even when it bit it there would only be small scratches, but i sold it anyways because every night i would hear the giant raphael growl to get the PNT off it.. more stress than injury.
Now the ornate has a 2' long piece of 4" ABS pipe it lives in so the PNT cant get to it. All the other fish have occasional fin damage, but nothing major... fingers crossed...
Im gonna go feed my PNT now
I sold all my 12-15" bichirs (except the ornate) and 14" giant raphael cat because those were the ones it went after. It did fin and dorsal ray damage to the bichirs... The giant raphael was a tank and even when it bit it there would only be small scratches, but i sold it anyways because every night i would hear the giant raphael growl to get the PNT off it.. more stress than injury.
Now the ornate has a 2' long piece of 4" ABS pipe it lives in so the PNT cant get to it. All the other fish have occasional fin damage, but nothing major... fingers crossed...
Im gonna go feed my PNT now
I think its one of those things that is strongly discourage but entirely dependant on the individual personalities of each animal. As a general rule DONT DO IT, but if you have a placid, active endli and a placid, friendly pig nose that minds its own business then you will be ok, it has worked for me for 2 years now with my 6" pig nose and a 12-14" lapardei in my 4x2x2.
Its up to you but if i were going to try it then i would make sure a spare tank was available to move the endli into at the first sign of harrasment an/or aggression and keep a very close eye on the two for the first few hours. Try feeding the pig nose too because if any conflict is going to occur it will be then, this will give ou a good idea of the personalities of each animal as they compete for food. If one respects the others space and no aggression occurs then chances are you will be ok, but theres allways that chance of an accidental snip of the fins..........or worse.
Its up to you but if i were going to try it then i would make sure a spare tank was available to move the endli into at the first sign of harrasment an/or aggression and keep a very close eye on the two for the first few hours. Try feeding the pig nose too because if any conflict is going to occur it will be then, this will give ou a good idea of the personalities of each animal as they compete for food. If one respects the others space and no aggression occurs then chances are you will be ok, but theres allways that chance of an accidental snip of the fins..........or worse.
I would say it really depends on the personality of the FRT
I currently have 2 FRTs in the same tank with my stingrays and yes I have an Endi in the tank as well as some cichlids (Pikes & a Butti)
The 2 FRTs are about 10" each in shell length.
They mind their own biz and so far I only see them getting bossed around in the tank.
They got bitten by my motoro (7") and the Butti chases them around sometimes
They don't even bother with the Endi
I currently have 2 FRTs in the same tank with my stingrays and yes I have an Endi in the tank as well as some cichlids (Pikes & a Butti)
The 2 FRTs are about 10" each in shell length.
They mind their own biz and so far I only see them getting bossed around in the tank.
They got bitten by my motoro (7") and the Butti chases them around sometimes
They don't even bother with the Endi
Been thinking about mixing RFT with fish for some time now.
I was hoping to mix FRT into a monster tank/pond with ATFs and Payaras. My friend has one with his red and gold arrows, no issues.
got a buddy whose giving his to me tonight. not sure what to do... hmmm
RFT's, 2 of them are about 5".
new tank's being build and Have a holding tilapia dithers tank so will put them in their first and see what happens.
I'm guessing if they mess with slow fish, they will knip at plecos and other slow catfish?
how about a hoplias? Got one in a seperate tank now. Not as worried for the hoplias as the turtles.
Guessing the ATFs are too fast for them. but thats risky. Priority is the fish.
I was hoping to mix FRT into a monster tank/pond with ATFs and Payaras. My friend has one with his red and gold arrows, no issues.
got a buddy whose giving his to me tonight. not sure what to do... hmmm
RFT's, 2 of them are about 5".
new tank's being build and Have a holding tilapia dithers tank so will put them in their first and see what happens.
I'm guessing if they mess with slow fish, they will knip at plecos and other slow catfish?
how about a hoplias? Got one in a seperate tank now. Not as worried for the hoplias as the turtles.
Guessing the ATFs are too fast for them. but thats risky. Priority is the fish.
My FRT doesn't bother a single fish in my 1500. He's in there with rays, clown loaches, tinfoil barbs, bala sharks, pictus cats, tig, sun cat, girraffe cichlids, mad barb, pink tail chaelous, blood parrots, and plecos.
Maybe my situation is unique but from what I have learned is these turtles get along quiet will with fish because they preffer to eat fruits and veggies over fish. In fact my turtle has yet to go after even a smelt that I use to feed the rays.
Maybe my situation is unique but from what I have learned is these turtles get along quiet will with fish because they preffer to eat fruits and veggies over fish. In fact my turtle has yet to go after even a smelt that I use to feed the rays.
